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Previously on "When do I get my free Baby?"

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Employees don't pay Employer's NI the clue is in the name.
    Be kind. Nearly all the letters are the same.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post


    If you ignore Employer's NI in your calculation as they've done.
    Employees don't pay Employer's NI the clue is in the name.

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  • d000hg
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    I didn't see anything she said translating as "I want to have another kid to boost our income". In fact she said she wanted another kid even if the government cut her benefits further.

    Still a crackers situation obviously.

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Contractors inside IR35 pay 14% more tax than permanent employees


    If you ignore Employer's NI in your calculation as they've done.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by ASB View Post
    No of baby farms = not very many.
    No of contractors = a couple of orders of magnitude more.

    If it was just a numbers game its obvious which to fix first.
    Number of long-term jobless hits 20-year high

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  • ASB
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    have you heard the expression two wrongs don't make a right?

    both need fixing, however a contractor avoiding £5-10k of NI but paying probably £20-30k tax against a baby farm receiving £30K which do you fix first?

    the numbers are about the same.
    No of baby farms = not very many.
    No of contractors = a couple of orders of magnitude more.

    If it was just a numbers game its obvious which to fix first.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    What if one of her kids stops world hunger, or cures cancer, £30k would seem cheap
    They are more likely to turn to a life of petty crime.

    Also it is not the same as being a contractor at all. She is using those kids as a means of income.

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    What if one of her kids stops world hunger, or cures cancer, £30k would seem cheap
    It's possible, but since her two eldest daughters are already in the baby production business it's fairly improbable.

    On balance it's more likely that most if not all of her offspring will follow along a similar behaviour path.

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    have you heard the expression two wrongs don't make a right?

    both need fixing, however a contractor avoiding £5-10k of NI but paying probably £20-30k tax against a baby farm receiving £30K which do you fix first?

    the numbers are about the same.
    What if one of her kids stops world hunger, or cures cancer, £30k would seem cheap

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    Whats the difference with her using the system legitimately then us doing the same every time we take a dividend rather than paying full PAYE and NI on our earnings.

    Hate the game not the player
    have you heard the expression two wrongs don't make a right?

    both need fixing, however a contractor avoiding £5-10k of NI but paying probably £20-30k tax against a baby farm receiving £30K which do you fix first?

    the numbers are about the same.
    Last edited by vetran; 6 March 2015, 12:15.

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  • PerfectStorm
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    Whats the difference with her using the system legitimately then us doing the same every time we take a dividend rather than paying full PAYE and NI on our earnings.

    Hate the game not the player
    Wait for the "what do you mean, I'm a business?" responses from the usual suspects.

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  • Uncle Albert
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    Originally posted by Pogle View Post
    She'd be a hero in Russia
    Good point. Let's all chip in to send her there.

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  • SimonMac
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    Whats the difference with her using the system legitimately then us doing the same every time we take a dividend rather than paying full PAYE and NI on our earnings.

    Hate the game not the player

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  • Pogle
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    She'd be a hero in Russia

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  • CloudWalker
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    Shes not a mother, shes a production line!

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