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Previously on "Dont legalise weed in the UK"

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  • Pondlife
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Fully agree, being a former Dutch citizen where weed is freely available since the 1980's, I could see the daily effects weed has on the population. Marijuana being smoked on playgrounds and schoolyards. There are lots of schizophrenics as a result of weed usage and loads of the regular marijuana smokers continue to use stronger stuff such as heroine.
    The world needs more heroines. They're great role models to young women.

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by GlenSausio View Post
    The altered state that the UK weed puts you in, is not healthy. Complete detachment from reality. On a par with acid. I would argue cocaine, ecstasy and speed are much weaker drugs than UK weed now - you are still on the same planet. (Caveat - extremists).

    For kids, weed is bad. It kills their motivation when they need it most.

    Lastly, weed is an anti social drug, once the giggly phase has past. It separates people rather than bringing them together.
    Fully agree, being a former Dutch citizen where weed is freely available since the 1980's, I could see the daily effects weed has on the population. Marijuana being smoked on playgrounds and schoolyards. There are lots of schizophrenics as a result of weed usage and loads of the regular marijuana smokers continue to use stronger stuff such as heroin.
    Last edited by Eirikur; 21 November 2014, 11:49.

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  • EternalOptimist
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    people can get addicted to anything, some people are natural born addicts whilst others just sail on by.
    Everything in moderation, as that greek bloke said

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  • GlenSausio
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    Originally posted by ELBBUBKUNPS View Post
    The same can be said for booze, it all depends on the user, I know people earning 100k plus in senior roles who have smoked daily for 20 years with no issue, I also know other people who it has created issues for.

    In the UK weed has doubled in price in the last 6-7 years same grade of weed just twice the price with all the extra £ going in the crime gangs pockets.

    I would legalise and regulate closely not ideal but keeping it illegal does not seem to do much except make gangs richer.
    I know people like that too.. But they are in the minority. These are the 40 year olds who don't get hangovers, seem to always look healthy despite eating sh1t. They just have "good constitutions". Most people are not like that.

    Most people I know who have smoked weed regularly in the past, have stopped and have a bad opinion of it.

    I think it's because of the weed they were smoking. The Aussie bush stuff is probably fine. The UK stuff is not.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    If it's legalised it can be controlled and limits placed on the strength.

    I've been lurking around the Crohn's Disease forum and there they have a medical marijuana section because a lot of people find it's the best treatment. Of course in Britain they'd put you and your doctor in prison for it even if it is the best thing for you.
    well that is just the stupidity of the medical system Opiates have been legalised for medical use for a very long time. They need to do the same for marijuana controlling the strength.

    hardly an excuse for legalising weed for general use.

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by GlenSausio View Post
    The altered state that the UK weed puts you in, is not healthy. Complete detachment from reality. On a par with acid. I would argue cocaine, ecstasy and speed are much weaker drugs than UK weed now - you are still on the same planet. (Caveat - extremists).

    For kids, weed is bad. It kills their motivation when they need it most.

    Lastly, weed is an anti social drug, once the giggly phase has past. It separates people rather than bringing them together.
    How do you know? Where is the proof?

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  • ELBBUBKUNPS
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    The same can be said for booze, it all depends on the user, I know people earning 100k plus in senior roles who have smoked daily for 20 years with no issue, I also know other people who it has created issues for.

    In the UK weed has doubled in price in the last 6-7 years same grade of weed just twice the price with all the extra £ going in the crime gangs pockets.

    I would legalise and regulate closely not ideal but keeping it illegal does not seem to do much except make gangs richer.
    Last edited by ELBBUBKUNPS; 21 November 2014, 09:47.

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  • VectraMan
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    Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
    I thought that is used to be fine a few years ago but the new forms of skunk etc that have come on the scene within the last 5 or 10 years are brutal and really mess people up?
    If it's legalised it can be controlled and limits placed on the strength.

    I've been lurking around the Crohn's Disease forum and there they have a medical marijuana section because a lot of people find it's the best treatment. Of course in Britain they'd put you and your doctor in prison for it even if it is the best thing for you.

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  • MyUserName
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    I thought that is used to be fine a few years ago but the new forms of skunk etc that have come on the scene within the last 5 or 10 years are brutal and really mess people up?

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  • GlenSausio
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    I know an 18 year old kid who's showing all the behaviours of serious addiction - with weed. It's not harmless for everyone - just like alcohol.

    But I'd still decriminalise it and make it government controlled. As the Swiss have done with hard drugs.
    Young people get addicted to the nicotine in their joints. It's the nicotine hit they are chasing, without realising it.

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  • NotAllThere
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    I know an 18 year old kid who's showing all the behaviours of serious addiction - with weed. It's not harmless for everyone - just like alcohol.

    But I'd still decriminalise it and make it government controlled. As the Swiss have done with hard drugs.

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by GlenSausio View Post
    The altered state that the UK weed puts you in, is not healthy. Complete detachment from reality. On a par with acid. I would argue cocaine, ecstasy and speed are much weaker drugs than UK weed now - you are still on the same planet. (Caveat - extremists).

    For kids, weed is bad. It kills their motivation when they need it most.

    Lastly, weed is an anti social drug, once the giggly phase has past. It separates people rather than bringing them together.
    FFS, what wrong with doing four tins of Tennetts Super (9%), it is a zone and just as valid.

    Drugs is bollocks......

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  • Freaki Li Cuatre
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    Originally posted by GlenSausio View Post
    The altered state that the UK weed puts you in, is not healthy. Complete detachment from reality. On a par with acid. I would argue cocaine, ecstasy and speed are much weaker drugs than UK weed now - you are still on the same planet. (Caveat - extremists).

    For kids, weed is bad. It kills their motivation when they need it most.

    Lastly, weed is an anti social drug, once the giggly phase has past. It separates people rather than bringing them together.
    A load of Tosh.

    It good for de flu,
    good for asthma,
    good for tuberculosis,
    even umara composis.

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  • GlenSausio
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Just interested to get your view on the UK drug culture.

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