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I'll wait until they announce New Smart Meters, with lower weight, longer battery power, faster GPU etc etc
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Nobody has mentioned the health effects and why I definitely won't have a "smart" meter:
Smart Meter Health Complaints | EMF Safety Network
List of symptoms:
Sleep problems (insomnia, difficulty falling asleep, night waking, nightmares)
Stress, agitation, anxiety, irritability
Headaches, sharp pain or pressure in the head
Ringing in the ears, ear pain, high pitched ringing
Concentration, memory or learning problems
Fatigue, muscle or physical weakness
Disorientation, dizziness, or balance problems
Eye problems, including eye pain, pressure in the eyes,
Cardiac symptoms, heart palpitations, heart arrhythmias, chest pain
Leg cramps, or neuropathy
Arthritis, body pain, sharp, stabbing pains
Nausea, flu-like symptoms
Sinus problems, nose bleeds
Respiratory problems, cough, asthma
Skin rashes, facial flushing
Urinary problems
Endocrine disorders, thyroid problems, diabetes
High blood pressure
Changes in menstrual cycle
Hyperactivity or changes in children’s behavior
Seizures
Recurrence of cancer
Taken from EMF Safety Network Survey 2011
Symptoms after Exposure to Smart Meter Radiation By Dr. Ron Powell
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Originally posted by zeitghostMy thoughts entirely.
Nothing wrong with a meter full of coils & magnets & little wheels & stuff.
It's when it's got silicon in it you want to worry.
And if the silicon is computery, then it's time to really worry.
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I've had several "we need to change you meter to a smart meter" type letters from our energy supplier - each one with a slightly stronger tone, and each suggesting that it was "necessary" because our meters were old.
I eventually rang them, told them fair enough they could update the meters but that I didn't want a smart one.
Chap on the other end of the phone said "ok, I'll take you off the list"
That was it, so nothing to do with the age of our meters, just a scam to try and get smart ones installed..
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Originally posted by rl4engc View PostBump.
Has anything changed on this since last year? My supplier (OVO) sent an email saying do I want one. I'm naturally cynical so thought if a company wants me to do something, it's going to be in their interests not mine.
The FAQ doesn't give much info (apart from "Q: Can I still use it if I switch? A: Maybe[...]"
Not bothered about being cut off (I pay), security (it's 3G not Wifi innit?), more about them having 15 minute granularity on usage data for future day/night tarriffs, house value (not got a water meter for that reason as I've heard once one is fitted you can never have it removed?). etc.
The business case for the public doesn't stack up, however it is important for the suppliers who want a Smart grid to stop wasting so much energy.
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostOf course crims would not think about leaving the lights and TV on when they go out...
Smart Meter Hack Shuts Off The Lights
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostBah! The government will use them to spy on us. "You say you were at home when this crime was committed sir, but your smart meter shows no significant electricity usage although it was cold and dark"
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Originally posted by rl4engc View PostA valid point, but if they send you a massive unwarranted bill, it's time to wrap the device in tinfoil until it's sorted out.
By the way a water meter will be fitted automatically when you move. Maybe they start doing this with Electric / gas? In the old place the meters were 30 + years old.
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Originally posted by TestMangler View PostWhat would paying have to do with it ? A computer or operator error in a highly bobified industry and your leccy goes off.
Currently, an error (like a massive unwarranted bill ?) would leave you with time to sort it out.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostThen it goes on to detail who they were. ...
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostA mobile phone company has suspended the number 0888 888 888 – after every single person assigned to it died in the last 10 years.
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Bah! The government will use them to spy on us. "You say you were at home when this crime was committed sir, but your smart meter shows no significant electricity usage although it was cold and dark"
<xoggoth in usual paranoid mode>
PS Apparently they can track a mobile phone even if location is turned off. Can't find link now.
But did finds a more interesting link re phones
Mobile phone number suspended after three users die in 10 years - Telegraph
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Originally posted by rl4engc View PostBump.
Has anything changed on this since last year? My supplier (OVO) sent an email saying do I want one. I'm naturally cynical so thought if a company wants me to do something, it's going to be in their interests not mine.
The FAQ doesn't give much info (apart from "Q: Can I still use it if I switch? A: Maybe[...]"
Not bothered about being cut off (I pay), security (it's 3G not Wifi innit?), more about them having 15 minute granularity on usage data for future day/night tarriffs, house value (not got a water meter for that reason as I've heard once one is fitted you can never have it removed?). etc.
Currently, an error (like a massive unwarranted bill ?) would leave you with time to sort it out.
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