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Originally posted by stek View PostGot a prob with my drain outside, just quoted £70/hr to fix with no guarantee of fix.
Try not to sound so sophisticated and well-off when you phone the guy up
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostThen it's not a PWD then. If you do any chargeable work in a 24 hour period for your client, they get charged a set fee for your services for that 24 hours. Since you don't get overtime and they don't get relief for short days, why worry about how many hours you work in any one day?
OK, it means that clients can get charged a lot of money for a 30 minute phone call when I've said I'm not working that day, but equally they don't get charged extra when I spend 7 hours in a car to and from their client's site for 8 hours of meetings. We're there to deliver stuff, not time.
If being paid for a day, I have to at least make it look like a day! If I need to get something complete on any particular day and it took me 9.5 hours in a day, i'd do 5.5 hours the next day (or claw the other 2 hours back some other time). I don't time myself to the minute while working for a client who's paying PWD - but I have a rough idea of the number of hours i've worked in any given week or maybe a bit more.
I'm there to deliver stuff over a period of time. If it gets completed early then my contract gets cut short. If it doesn't, I can either pass it on to the permies or the contract gets extended.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostThey saw you coming then
Also, you only equate yourself with a plumber?
The Contractor in me says:
1. Price up drain tools
2. Take a look at the sich.
3. Take view.
Not paying that much without a bit of research...
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Originally posted by TransitTrucker View PostI've had my manager stand over me and demand that I stay until I had finished a particular project plan. No real reason for this except that she had promised her manager that it would be done that day. At 6pm I got up and left (plan not complete but complete enough). I had been in since 8am. The long and the short of it is that some people are definitely unreasonable. Contracts don't help. My contract clearly stated a 7.5 hour day. The manager said that her wishes supercede the contract. I didn't last there very long and I don't seem to be able to get back in at that client. I guess that I shouldn't hint at black-lists.
They have done you a favour.
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I've had my manager stand over me and demand that I stay until I had finished a particular project plan. No real reason for this except that she had promised her manager that it would be done that day. At 6pm I got up and left (plan not complete but complete enough). I had been in since 8am. The long and the short of it is that some people are definitely unreasonable. Contracts don't help. My contract clearly stated a 7.5 hour day. The manager said that her wishes supercede the contract. I didn't last there very long and I don't seem to be able to get back in at that client. I guess that I shouldn't hint at black-lists.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostYou mean a plumber who charges by the hour or one who quotes a fixed fee for the job... neither of which is charging by the professional day?
However all the ones I've used charge by the job.
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Originally posted by the_rangdo View Post8 hour days over here in Manchester.
Can live with it though, it's local and they don't moan at me for starting/leaving early (7:15 - 15:45)
Still knackered, this is one the few places I've worked on call and you do get called like every hour or two, too frikking old for this ah tell thi'....
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Originally posted by NickFitz View PostHaven't worked an 8 hour day in years; it's a 7.5 hour day everywhere I've been this century, except for the place where the permies had a 7 hour day - my contract still stipulated 7.5 hours, so that's what I did. If I did come across somewhere trying to impose an 8 hour day, I might well refuse the gig on principle.
Can live with it though, it's local and they don't moan at me for starting/leaving early (7:15 - 15:45)
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Originally posted by russell View PostI wonder a plumber would ask this on a plumbers forum,
"How many hours should I work at the customers house?"
As many as you want is the answer.
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Haven't worked an 8 hour day in years; it's a 7.5 hour day everywhere I've been this century, except for the place where the permies had a 7 hour day - my contract still stipulated 7.5 hours, so that's what I did. If I did come across somewhere trying to impose an 8 hour day, I might well refuse the gig on principle.
For example, at CurrentClientCo, I tend to arrive about 9:30, take 30 minutes for lunch, and leave around 17:30.
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I wonder a plumber would ask this on a plumbers forum,
"How many hours should I work at the customers house?"
As many as you want is the answer.
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Originally posted by kingcook View PostMy PWD is 7.5 hours .
OK, it means that clients can get charged a lot of money for a 30 minute phone call when I've said I'm not working that day, but equally they don't get charged extra when I spend 7 hours in a car to and from their client's site for 8 hours of meetings. We're there to deliver stuff, not time.
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