Reply to: Lessons learnt - dont trust anyone. Advice for any newbies.

[Taita]

I can hardly wait until you find the next contract, so we can go through all this again

Echoooooo!

[bobspud]

I can hardly wait until you find the next contract, so we can go through all this again

Nah don't worry he's going to take the time off and have a think about the tulip he has been through and learn.

[Pondlife]

Psychocandeeeeeeeee!
<<canned laughter>>

[TheFaQQer]

I can hardly wait until you find the next contract, so we can go through all this again

[psychocandy]

Well all sorted in the end. Still more hassle than it needed to be to be honest.

[MarillionFan]

If you work the hours, you invoice for it. You're a business

If they mess you about on shifts. They do it once. You kick up a fuss, email, correspond, face to face, tell the agent. Do it again you charge

In terms of dress, as Sue says, your a business. I always assume suit or dark trousers / suit / tie until told otherwise at which point I may go smart casual. If you can't get into a night club / pub on a Friday night with what your wearing in the workplace then your not properly dressed.

[monkfish]

So did you...

Did you wear your t-shirt on "go-live" day then?

[SueEllen]

Neither do I. Generally, I wear shirt/tie sometimes without the tie. Never just rock up and wear what I like even if client staff wear shorts.

So why the moan about dress code then?

It's irrelevant.

[BlasterBates]

On the point of working 12 hours but then suggesting they only needed you for 8. Legally that doesn't wash. If they didn't tell you to go home they should pay it. That would be the point to tell them they're in breach of contract and withhold services until it's paid.

The other thing to bear in mind is that the contract works both ways if it isn't specifically in the contract that you agree to a shift at short notice then you can refuse without breaching the contract.

I mean if something was like that in the contract I wouldn't sign it in the first place.

A contractor can also play silly buggers if he wants to.

[psychocandy]

I presume you declared your accounts as inside IR35 for this one?

Straight on the phone ;-)

[psychocandy]

I go to many offices where people wear jeans and trainers.

I never wear them to work in so I don't understand what you are moaning about. My company has an image to protect.

Neither do I. Generally, I wear shirt/tie sometimes without the tie. Never just rock up and wear what I like even if client staff wear shorts.

[psychocandy]

Not having a pop PC but it looks like both you and the client had a difference in expectations. My question is, what is it you do (role) that might require a dress code other than PPE (HSSE) requirements?

Nothing special its just the client felt the need to mention it numerous times in meetings. Not me just to everyone. Weird.

[blinko]

I've had similar stuff happen to me, a general rule is anything to do with remuneration/benefits etc if it's not on paper you probably aren't going to get it..

You may find the newbie, less experience, less qualifications, weaker candidate, negotiated hard, you could even be there boss, has managed to get all this in writing and is receiving all the pay and perks that you didn't.

It's not to say that there isn't anything else that can be done here, as there may be a policy of some sort for all contractors, but from my experiences it will be you vs the recruitment consultants commission

[SueEllen]

And for this particular contract it did pan out that client wanted contractors who acted like permies. End of. Luckily it was only short term.

At one point, they even told people what to wear in to the office. Seriously.

I go to many offices where people wear jeans and trainers.

I never wear them to work in so I don't understand what you are moaning about. My company has an image to protect.

[northernladuk]

And for this particular contract it did pan out that client wanted contractors who acted like permies. End of. Luckily it was only short term.

At one point, they even told people what to wear in to the office. Seriously.

I presume you declared your accounts as inside IR35 for this one?