Reply to: Contacts and Recruiting Agents

[Taita]

Looking at the site it is even more staggering they don't really understand Opt out and IR35.

I find the website ageist as well, not one picture of any wizened old contractor on there so I feel they don't want my business

Difficult to see why I would entrust a week or two fees to a company like this.....I have checked. I would have to be feeling very, very lucky or desperate for the gig!

Cannot find a proper trace to the USA company although there are numerous corporates listed at that address.

[northernladuk]

Out out?

You are? I wondered what the avatar change was about

Corrected....

[TheFaQQer]

Looking at the site it is even more staggering they don't really understand Out out and IR35.

Out out?

[northernladuk]

Not this then?

Appsolve Limited | Contracting Solutions for the Modern IT Contractor

Looking at the site it is even more staggering they don't really understand Opt out and IR35.

I find the website ageist as well, not one picture of any wizened old contractor on there so I feel they don't want my business

[NDawg]

Good catch Taken a look at their website... yet another Umbrella outfit popping up to free the downtrodden contractor from the unbearable burden of contracting via a Ltd (and offering to do it all for you in the least tax efficient manner, for a nice weekly fee of course...).

This one apparently comes with a cool little perk

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For contractors travelling, to smooth your journey, we will provide you with airport lounge cards. This will give you free V.I.P access to airport lounges regardless of the class or airline you fly on. Benefits include: complimentary refreshments and snacks, email, internet, conference space and excellent working and leisure facilities.
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Still not worth me giving up my Ltd for though, but if I was umbrella, I'd probably switch just for this alone.

[kal]

Not this then?

Appsolve Limited | Contracting Solutions for the Modern IT Contractor

Good catch Taken a look at their website... yet another Umbrella outfit popping up to free the downtrodden contractor from the unbearable burden of contracting via a Ltd (and offering to do it all for you in the least tax efficient manner, for a nice weekly fee of course...).

[Taita]

No cojak, not a recruiting agency. You got it wrong

Not this then?

Appsolve Limited | Contracting Solutions for the Modern IT Contractor

[cojak]

Refer to the discussion "Opt in, opt out? What the agency regs are all about" in Answers, as told to CUK, by David Buckle. I rest my case.

Well if you want to play that game, I see your case and raise you mine...

Opt-in, opt-out?Legal specialist Egos comments :: Contractor UK

Conclusion

Overall, I find it difficult to see that there is any sound commercial reason why a contractor providing services through an agency would wish to opt out of the new regulations.

Roger Sinclair, Egos Ltd

I rest my case too...

[Appsolve]

Appsolve is a recruitment agency.

I think that answers your question NLUK.

No cojak, not a recruiting agency. You got it wrong

[Appsolve]

How exactly?


No it isn't. This is completely wrong.

Refer to the discussion "Opt in, opt out? What the agency regs are all about" in Answers, as told to CUK, by David Buckle. I rest my case.

[northernladuk]

Appsolve is a recruitment agency.

I think that answers your question NLUK.

That would explain the complete lack of understanding and application. Many thanks for pointing that out Cojak.

[TheFaQQer]

You don't - that's between the agent and the client to sort out. If the agent doesn't get the terms to match then that's their problem.

Generally, that's true.

Unless there is an IR35 investigation and the terms between client and agency (which you haven't seen) are completely different. For example, if the upper contract does not allow for a substitute to be sent, but yours does, then unless your contract states that the lower contract takes precedence, then the reality of the situation is that you have no right of substitution, thus weakening your IR35 defence.

This is one reason why going direct is better - you know all the terms you are agreeing to, whereas with an agency in the mix the reality of the situation (which is what is important in an IR35 investigation, not the written contract) may be something that you aren't really aware of.

[cojak]

We have god knows how many threads on this including a huge sticky as well as all the info in google and the guides to the right and people still can write this tosh. Words fail me.

Appsolve is a recruitment agency.

I think that answers your question NLUK.

[northernladuk]

Most recruitment companies would want you to opt out as that will
make them able to be more flexible and competitive on your behalf when trying to secure new
contracts. If you’re an independent contractor who is either self-employed or
working through a limited company, it is advisable for clarification of your IR35 status for you to
opt out.

We have god knows how many threads on this including a huge sticky as well as all the info in google and the guides to the right and people still can write this tosh. Words fail me.

[b0redom]

Most recruitment companies would want you to opt out as that will
make them able to be more flexible and competitive on your behalf when trying to secure new
contracts.

How exactly?

If you’re an independent contractor who is either self-employed or
working through a limited company, it is advisable for clarification of your IR35 status for you to
opt out.

No it isn't. This is completely wrong.