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Previously on "Avoiding agents - going direct"

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  • No2politics
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    Avoiding agents - going direct

    Originally posted by LKK View Post
    Yes - it's not a good percentage, I know. But 2 out of 2 was 100%... for one company, and on the one project at the same time, that's too much.
    Awesome.

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  • ratewhore
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    1 - Identify what you are good at.
    2 - Find companies who operate in that space.
    3 - Approach them politely and professionally with your proposal.
    4 - Take it from there.

    It also depends on whether you want a contract (i.e. 3-6 months+) or whether you want an associate type relationship, where they can call you with shorter pieces of work.

    I did the latter and with multiple customers, it does generate enough turnover to be a viable proposition.

    HTH...

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  • GB9
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    Originally posted by LKK View Post
    Yes - it's not a good percentage, I know. But 2 out of 2 was 100%... for one company, and on the one project at the same time, that's too much.
    What's it got to do with them going direct though?

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  • LKK
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    With 2 direct contractors as an example?
    Yes - it's not a good percentage, I know. But 2 out of 2 was 100%... for one company, and on the one project at the same time, that's too much.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
    Yeah, but agencies do their best to write into contracts that they won't pay if the client doesn't and bullying contractors into opting out of the agency regulations.
    If you negotiate properly with an agency you will find you get paid before they do by the client.

    In my case the majority of agencies I've dealt with have clauses in the contract along the lines of if they don't get paid then I agree to walk of site.

    So while I insist on opting-in so I don't have to fight the agency on the restraint of trade clauses, I won't be out of pocket if I opted-out.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by LKK View Post
    What? I'm definetely NOT an agent. LOL.
    Simply sharing my previous experiences.
    With 2 direct contractors as an example?

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  • LKK
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Nah s/he is an agent.

    Lots of contractors go direct - but you wouldn't know that unless you know plenty of other contractors or do it regularly yourself.
    What? I'm definetely NOT an agent. LOL.
    Simply sharing my previous experiences.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
    Yeah, but agencies do their best to write into contracts that they won't pay if the client doesn't and bullying contractors into opting out of the agency regulations.

    Also, if a client goes bust then there is a chance that they have at least some assets for the receivers to pay out to their creditors whereas agencies have none...
    Even if they have assets, you are an unsecured creditor and well down the queue with a long wait ahead.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    You politely ask a moderator. Done now. But it did make me laugh. Do try to read your posts once through before submitting.
    You can edit your title. Click edit, then the "advanced" button at the bottom.

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  • AnonAgent
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    Originally posted by Wanderer View Post
    Yeah, but agencies do their best to write into contracts that they won't pay if the client doesn't and bullying contractors into opting out of the agency regulations.

    Also, if a client goes bust then there is a chance that they have at least some assets for the receivers to pay out to their creditors whereas agencies have none...
    Happened to me a few times, I lose commission, contractor gets paid.

    And my agency arent going to go bust because we charge a proper margin and not monkeys rates of 10%

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by heyya99 View Post
    I do not know how to edit the title keyboard warrior.
    You politely ask a moderator. Done now. But it did make me laugh. Do try to read your posts once through before submitting.

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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by AnonAgent View Post
    I would hope your credit checking every company your going direct with.

    If the company goes bust and you are direct then you are out of pocket, but if you are with an agency you will get paid. But if the agency goes bust, you can usually get something out of the client.
    Yeah, but agencies do their best to write into contracts that they won't pay if the client doesn't and bullying contractors into opting out of the agency regulations.

    Also, if a client goes bust then there is a chance that they have at least some assets for the receivers to pay out to their creditors whereas agencies have none...

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  • kingcook
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Thank you for fixing that. I now understand when to use your and you're.

    So if I was using this in a sentence I could say...

    You're being pedantic or your post is pedantic.

    Cheers

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Thank you for fixing that. I now understand when to use your and you're.

    So if I was using this in a sentence I could say...

    You're being pedantic or your post is pedantic.

    Cheers
    LOL Nicely done!

    We have special smilies just for this with and grammar :nazi: so shame not to use 'em.

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  • woohoo
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    So are you suggesting from your experience of 2 contractors, that the ones that go direct are incompetent bulltulipters? You're a troll.

    FTFY
    Thank you for fixing that. I now understand when to use your and you're.

    So if I was using this in a sentence I could say...

    You're being pedantic or your post is pedantic.

    Cheers

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