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[Acme Thunderer]

Dealings with Bramlove

I can sort of vouch for Bramlove. Had a telephone interview with them with a large defence company in Crawley, unfortunately the client pulled the role after the interview.

I do have a friend that got a gig a through them to the same client.

[stek]

Please remember that this is a professional forum Ladies and Gentlemen.

What about hermaphrodites?

[cojak]

Please remember that this is a professional forum Ladies and Gentlemen.

[PinkPoshRat]

Nope perfectly legal and if doing it properly it's not deceptive.

People tend to use it either:
1. Because they are known by people as something else i.e. people in a local area know a business by one name even though the business has an officially different name.
2. Part of a rebranding exercise. You can see if a name sticks before you officially change it at Companies House.

In the case of recruitment agencies it seems to be a way of separating the sectors they recruit in i.e. if they recruit in different sectors giving each business unit a separate name. At some point if the unit gets big enough it can be spun off as another company.

Thank you SueEllen. This is a subject that I know nothing about and don't mind admitting it.

I've learned quite a bit about the business side to contracting from this forum, and because I'm an IT contractor who is still relatively new in the business world, am only too aware that there's still lots to learn.

So I make apology for not knowing everything, but am thankful for those who don't mind passing off their wisdom to me, and everyone else!

[northernladuk]

I was going to leave it at my previous post which is still the best advice so far but couldn't resist. Despite the OP's woeful use of google let me ask you this....

Pinkposhrat.. Have you ever had a night out in Tiger Tiger? The popular chain in most large cities?

Have a quick look at their CH entry and you find..


Company Name: TIGER TIGER LIMITED

Company Type:
Limited Company

Company No:
03467860

Company Address:
TIGER TIGER LIMITED
C/O NOVUS LEISURE LTD100 LUDGATE HILL
LONDON
W1D 7ER



Date:
09/06/2011

Novus Leisure are the largest private bar and club operator in the UK (as they say on their webpage)

I hardly think they are going out of their way to be deceptive.

You could of course just googles 'Trading as' and read up on it

[SueEllen]

No, sorry I didn't know that. What's the purpose of trading under a different name, it sounds almost deceptive?

Nope perfectly legal and if doing it properly it's not deceptive.

People tend to use it either:
1. Because they are known by people as something else i.e. people in a local area know a business by one name even though the business has an officially different name.
2. Part of a rebranding exercise. You can see if a name sticks before you officially change it at Companies House.

In the case of recruitment agencies it seems to be a way of separating the sectors they recruit in i.e. if they recruit in different sectors giving each business unit a separate name. At some point if the unit gets big enough it can be spun off as another company.

[northernladuk]

No, sorry I didn't know that. What's the purpose of trading under a different name, it sounds almost deceptive?

I would just stop posting now if I were you.

[PinkPoshRat]

You have heard of trading names haven't you?

You can register your company as one name but trade under a different name as long as you indicate they are linked on paperwork which some companies don't do.

No, sorry I didn't know that. What's the purpose of trading under a different name, it sounds almost deceptive?

[SueEllen]

I didn't get a hit on companies house earlier, and now I am. I'm still curious to know why they are "care of" a legal company, and not simply registered at CH under their own name?

You have heard of trading names haven't you?

You can register your company as one name but trade under a different name as long as you indicate they are linked on paperwork which some companies don't do.

[MarillionFan]

Typing the company name in to google wasn't exactly hard. I would have put a bit more effort in if it was the difference between getting work and not. Could be a very expensive bit of slacking if this was a valid role and you missed out by not searching hard enough.

Judging by the OPs investigative nature and attention to detail even if he/she gets an interview they've got bugger all chance of getting an offer.

[northernladuk]

Typing the company name in to google wasn't exactly hard. I would have put a bit more effort in if it was the difference between getting work and not. Could be a very expensive bit of slacking if this was a valid role and you missed out by not searching hard enough.

[PinkPoshRat]

FFS what am I doing!!

I didn't get a hit on companies house earlier, and now I am. I'm still curious to know why they are "care of" a legal company, and not simply registered at CH under their own name?

[northernladuk]

Bramlove Limited??? They are all over the place in Google.. also

Companies Directors Search for a company name, number or sic code
Search for a director by name
BRAMLOVE LIMITED Registered Address
CASTLEFIELD HOUSE LIVERPOOL ROAD
MANCHESTER
M3 4SBAge
7 yearsRegistered in England/Wales
05238325Nature of business
7222Other software consultancy and supply
7260Other computer related activities
7450Labour recruitment
Directors
MR PATRICK ARTHUR BRAMMER (58)
C/O ATTICUS LEGAL LLP CASTLEFIELD HOUSE LIVERPOOL ROAD, MANCHESTER M3 4SB
Position: 6 YearsAppointment date: 22/09/2004
Type: Secretary
Occupation: CO DIRECTOR MR PATRICK ARTHUR BRAMMER (58)
C/O ATTICUS LEGAL LLP CASTLEFIELD HOUSE LIVERPOOL ROAD, MANCHESTER M3 4SB
Position: 6 YearsAppointment date: 22/09/2004
Type: Director
Occupation: CO DIRECTOR MR JOSEPH ANTHONY LOVELADY (54)
C/O ATTICUS LEGAL LLP CASTLEFIELD HOUSE LIVERPOOL ROAD, MANCHESTER M3 4SB
Position: 6 YearsAppointment date: 22/09/2004
Type: Director
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECTOR

Also

BRAMLOVE LIMITED of M3 4SB in MANCHESTER UNITED KINGDOM

[PinkPoshRat]

Agent has just sent me a screen shot, which only confirms that the agency is "c/o" another legal company.

Where would I stand 'if' I was to take up a contract with a company not registered, but with a "c/o" another company?

[Fred Bloggs]

I would have thought BAe Systems would only have used PSL agencies. Might be worth calling some of the more decent agencies who you know to deal with BAe and asking them if they know of that role there? If yes, ask them to submit you for it.