Reply to: Trying to get into Contract Notice Period and Holiday entitlement

[BolshieBastard]

I see the usual bollocks of 'if you cant......you shouldnt be a contractor' being spouted. Jesus, some people here like to give the impression they never asked any questions first!

For what its worth, I left permiedom 14 years ago.

I decided I'd had enough of the permie shilling. So I put my cv out and got calls, then on my second interview, got a contract offer in Newcastle.

I made enquiries with my HR dept about resigning as the client knew I was on 4 weeks resignation period.

Asked my line manager did he have a problem with me taking hols as part of this period. He said no. Job sorted.

The OP needs to ask his HR \ Line Manager what the SP is. They'll either agree or disagree.

Yes, its been done. Some havent been able to do it.

[fullyautomatix]

Hi,

I am thinking of getting into the contracting for a while now. I am currently fulltime employment.
As for many people who goes from perm to contract I have 4 weeks notice period. In my situation I have about > 2 weeks worth holidays left.
What I would like to do is considering I have a contract offer and the prospected employer wishes to wait for 2 weeks. I would like to hand my
notice for 4 weeks and negociate my pending holiday entitlement for the end of my notice period. Leaving me with 2 weeks notice period. Has anyone
successfully/unsccessfully tried this? Can my employer forces me to take the holiday as paid salary and denies me the two weeks worth of holidays?

KR

A perfectly valid question from a permie to contract situation point of view. The answer is, this depends on your company and your position in the company.

If you were a non entity you can easily negotiate an early departure using your holiday. This means they will not pay your unused holidays.

If you were a super important sort of guy in the company, they will want to have you for 4 weeks to make sure you have transferred all your knowledge.

If you were at director level, they will put you on garden leave to make sure you do not steal product ideas when you were in notice period.

It is usually safer to serve notice as per contract and so secure references. Never burn the bridge. Ask nicely and if they say no, do not persist.

[northernladuk]

Has it been pointed out that this is exactly the same thread as the one in the Account/Legal section.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...titlement.html

[cojak]

The post was polite and straightforward acontractor.

[acontractor]

You really have bad English - in one of the posts quoted you started talking about "employers" when the poster were talking about "employees". Either take some more English lessons in your spare time or read more English literature books. It will really help.

I've had some interviews where they have done English tests on me i.e. please write a paragraph on x and y, and I couldn't work out why. Now I know.

Thanks for the suggestion.

"I've had some interviews where they have done English tests on me i.e. please write a paragraph on x and y, and I couldn't work out why. Now I know." -- there is no need for this kind of talk. There could be number of reasons why someone would be ask to take a language tests. It is very narrrow minded thinking if you judge some's language ability just from this one thread. There could be number reasons why I got my language incorrect on this thread.

[d000hg]

Many employers don't force leavers to work their notice anyway, or all of it. If you tell them you're leaving for a better offer they might let you do this, or even let you quit your notice without paying you for it.

[SueEllen]

pmeswami is correct. Sorry if the language does not make sense.

You really have bad English - in one of the posts quoted you started talking about "employers" when the poster were talking about "employees". Either take some more English lessons in your spare time or read more English literature books. It will really help.

I've had some interviews where they have done English tests on me i.e. please write a paragraph on x and y, and I couldn't work out why. Now I know.

[acontractor]

I think he / she is saying that he could hand in his / her notice and work 1 week and take 3 weeks holiday. Not sure if I read it right though.

pmeswami is correct. Sorry if the language does not make sense.

[pmeswani]

You're English typing skills are terrible, I don't know whether English is your second language or not, so it is hard to decipher that.

I think he / she is saying that he could hand in his / her notice and work 1 week and take 3 weeks holiday. Not sure if I read it right though.

[jmo21]

sorry I dont think I put that right... I didnt work extra day then 4 weeks but I had 3 weeks worth of holidays left. So If I could decide then could have taken all three weeks and left with in a week.

You're English typing skills are terrible, I don't know whether English is your second language or not, so it is hard to decipher that.

[acontractor]

Like i said earlier i don't think your ready for this, you have spent the morning discussing whether you can take your holiday as notice period, you can keep discussing it untill your blue in the face if you are going contracting just go into your boss and tell him straight your off can you sort out when i can go and i want to take any holiday as part of my notice, make a decision and go and do it

Dont agree with the "Not ready" part . But you are right about Just go for it. and thats what I am going to do. It was not quesiton of if I am contracting it was just about how to deal with the situation at hand. for which I got good feedback from this thread

[Support Monkey]

Like i said earlier i don't think your ready for this, you have spent the morning discussing whether you can take your holiday as notice period, you can keep discussing it untill your blue in the face if you are going contracting just go into your boss and tell him straight your off can you sort out when i can go and i want to take any holiday as part of my notice, make a decision and go and do it

[acontractor]

Well, that's a much easier question to answer - they absolutely could NOT have forced you to stay past your notice period.

He didn't impose it on you, because he simply couldn't have.

Nothing wrong with him asking you to stay an extra week either, and if it suits you, then all is good.

sorry I dont think I put that right... I didnt work extra day then 4 weeks but I had 3 weeks worth of holidays left. So If I could decide then could have taken all three weeks and left with in a week.

[jmo21]

My exboss didnt imposed me to stay at the role he rather requested. Dont know if I would have refuse then they could have imposed it leagally?

Well, that's a much easier question to answer - they absolutely could NOT have forced you to stay past your notice period.

He didn't impose it on you, because he simply couldn't have.

Nothing wrong with him asking you to stay an extra week either, and if it suits you, then all is good.

[acontractor]

Just a thought - but do you actually have 2 weeks accrued already? Just thinking that if you have, say, 20 days holiday, a year, then 2 weeks holiday (10 working days) won't be accrued until you've worked for 6 months of the calendar year.

I realise that:

- some companies have holidays running in a fiscal rather than calendar year
- some companies allow you to carry-over a set number of days from the previous year
- 20 days holiday is the bare minimum

Just checking, like.

Our Holiday period runs from Sept to Aug. so I have 7 months worth of holidays. but I have used few so it will leave me with 10 days