Trying to get into Contract Notice Period and Holiday entitlement

[acontractor]

Hi,

I am thinking of getting into the contracting for a while now. I am currently fulltime employment.
As for many people who goes from perm to contract I have 4 weeks notice period. In my situation I have about > 2 weeks worth holidays left.
What I would like to do is considering I have a contract offer and the prospected employer wishes to wait for 2 weeks. I would like to hand my
notice for 4 weeks and negociate my pending holiday entitlement for the end of my notice period. Leaving me with 2 weeks notice period. Has anyone
successfully/unsccessfully tried this? Can my employer forces me to take the holiday as paid salary and denies me the two weeks worth of holidays?

KR

[SueEllen]

Do you want us to wipe your bottom for you?

Seriously you don't know until you ask your employer.

Also there is nothing stopping you walking out after two weeks and then citing stress due to their treatment of you when you resigned. A visit to your GP would help that. They also have to pay you those 2 weeks and with the stress case they are unlikely to counter-sue you.

[acontractor]

Do you want us to wipe your bottom for you?

Seriously you don't know until you ask your employer.

SueEllen, Not asking for spoon feeding. I am asking if someone has "any experince" of this kind of negociatation.
If I ask my employer just for the test this means I am immediately on their radar.

[acontractor]

Also there is nothing stopping you walking out after two weeks and then citing stress due to their treatment of you when you resigned. A visit to your GP would help that. They also have to pay you those 2 weeks and with the stress case they are unlikely to counter-sue you.

Good point, but what about references. Is there are a chance of having problem with getting references? My aplogies if this is a very low level question.

[Support Monkey]

Sorry to be blunt but, If your worried about references and asking how to negoitate leaving your better off staying where you are, sounds like your jumping into contracting without looking into the process and pitfalls first

[SueEllen]

Sorry to be blunt but, If your worried about references and asking how to negoitate leaving your better off staying where you are, sounds like your jumping into contracting without looking into the process and pitfalls first

WHS

All I can say is loads of people have done it plus if you aren't comfortable talking to management then you should not be a contractor.

[acontractor]

WHS

All I can say is loads of people have done it plus if you aren't comfortable talking to management then you should not be a contractor.

I understand what you are saying and I appricaite your inputs. Yes I am new to the contracting etc but I am not afraid of talking to anyone in the management. They are not doing a favour to me by keeping me in the job and vice a versa.
(In the past, I have negociated things like salaries for the job I was in.) However I like to do my homework before I start doing these kinds of talks.I know that it will always going to come to the day I hand my notice in.

[SueEllen]

I understand what you are saying and I appricaite your inputs. Yes I am new to the contracting etc but I am not afraid of talking to anyone in the management. They are not doing a favour to me by keeping me in the job and vice a versa.
(In the past, I have negociated things like salaries for the job I was in.) However I like to do my homework before I start doing these kinds of talks.I know that it will always going to come to the day I hand my notice in.

Well coming to us who don't work for your employer isn't doing your homework.

You are better of finding out if previous employees of the company asked to cut their notice period short and what happened.

[acontractor]

Well coming to us who don't work for your employer isn't doing your homework.

You are better of finding out if previous employees of the company asked to cut their notice period short and what happened.

By doing my homework does not mean get exact details of possiblities of things that can happen. It means collecting other people's experiences who were in similar situations. and thats what I was going for.
One of the users in this thread mentioned "...sounds like your jumping into contracting without looking into the process and pitfalls first " This is also about knowing the process.
This is not crying for help its a discussion.
Hope this helps clearing out my point.

[FiveTimes]

If you have the contract in place then just make the leap.

Write your resignation letter and state that as per contract clause x. you will be resigning and giving 4 weeks notice.
However also state that you have 2 weeks holiday accrued and as a result your last working day will be notice period - 2 weeks.

simple and no need for discussions.