Reply to: 4 agencies, 7 stages.....no chance.

[Fred Bloggs]

My thoughts exactly. These long interviews are for permie jobs where they are looking for graduate trainees or trainee managers for McDonald's.

For me, the interview is a place for me to discuss the client's requirements and for me to make a pitch for how MyCo can work with them to deliver what they want.

Exactly.

[Wanderer]

Any decent candidates won't apply because basically they can pick up a decent £500 a day contract from one interview, that means they'll be inviting the dross in to go through a long and time wasting exercise.

My thoughts exactly. These long interviews are for permie jobs where they are looking for graduate trainees or trainee managers for McDonald's.

For me, the interview is a place for me to discuss the client's requirements and for me to make a pitch for how MyCo can work with them to deliver what they want.

[doodab]

Any decent candidates won't apply because basically they can pick up a decent £500 a day contract from one interview, that means they'll be inviting the dross in to go through a long and time wasting exercise.

Which is why they need a 7 stage interview process....

[nomadd]

In general a contract role should only have one interview. A telephone interview beforehand is fine, but two or more separate face-to-face meetings should ring alarm bells.

Multiple interviews mean they want to treat you like a permie, or management don't trust their team leads to pick a good contractor. Multiple interviews goes against the whole ethos of contracting: contractors should be easy to hire and easy to fire. That's what clients pay for!

And you can add "technical tests" to that exclusion list. I always make it clear to agents that I consider such things as billable work, charged in half-day units, and I insist they make the client aware of this if they plan to arrange such tests. Funny enough, they decided to "skip" the technical test for my current gig. And the one before... And the one before...

[swamp]

In general a contract role should only have one interview. A telephone interview beforehand is fine, but two or more separate face-to-face meetings should ring alarm bells.

Multiple interviews mean they want to treat you like a permie, or management don't trust their team leads to pick a good contractor. Multiple interviews goes against the whole ethos of contracting: contractors should be easy to hire and easy to fire. That's what clients pay for!

[nomadd]

Contractors in "I don't want anyone to spend any decent amount of time with me, incase they find out I'm not worth X00's per day" shocker.....

Agents in the "I don't give a s-h-i-t-e" mode, as I don't have to go through all that. I just arrange it for some other mug to attend...

[northernladuk]

Techinical test

What's that?

Thank god there wasn't a spelling test in mine [

[Random]

all the banking (Front Office development) roles ive been for are generally 2 stages: (1) tech test / interview (2) Business / Product knowledge interview.

Thats it and tbh all you need. For my latest I had stage 1 in the morning and stage 2 after work the same day, you will understand if the person can or cant do the job based on the above 2 + their past roles.

[stillooking]

Personally, and that's only because I have a choice, I would get back to the agent saying that I can do 1 hour interview for free and I would charge for the rest thus allowing two ways to move forward:
a) by simplifying the process
b) by getting paid for the time spent/wasted

that won't happen if it's a permie opp

[nfoote]

Contractors in "I don't want anyone to spend any decent amount of time with me, incase they find out I'm not worth X00's per day" shocker.....

Similar to another thread I started about when does your CV start to speak for yourself I think it might be more of a case, particularly with contractors, of complete exasperation that desipte an outstanding employment history and contract fulfillment record as detailed by a CV and backed up by a few quick phone calls to provided references that clients still think there's a need for hoop jumping to make sure we can do the jobs we've just said we've been doing for the past 10, 20, 30 years?!?

[nfoote]

In the graduate ones we did...

Initial face to face
Competency based interview via activities
Techinical test
Meet and greet senior stakeholders

Techinical test. What's that?

Indeed, for grads, they've just done 3-4 years of technical tests, is there much point in more? I'd have thought more emphasis on competnecy, team fit and depending on the role presentation or logical tests or the like.

Think for my GlobalCo grad intake we had;
1 - Phone interview from 3rd party recruitment advisors
2 - Assessment half day including team based exercises (observed), 30min interview with HR lady, 30min interview with technical manager .. suppose that might count as 3 steps?
3 - hour and a bit interview with a PM about what I can't remember

[ettubrute]

Techinical test

What's that?

[northernladuk]

What are the 7 stages?

Does chat with a technical person for 30 mins then chat with a business side person for 30 mins count as 2 stages?

I can't understand how it's possible to need more than:

1. Phone interview
2. Interview + technical test
3. Negotiations for pay and conditions

In the graduate ones we did...

Initial face to face
Competency based interview via activities
Techinical test
Meet and greet senior stakeholders

There are also other things such as a presentation. Interview with senior management, interview with tech teams or similar, meets and greets for team fit with various teams if you didn't do the previous two interviews, more assesment days and so on.

[BlasterBates]

Contractors in "I don't want anyone to spend any decent amount of time with me, incase they find out I'm not worth X00's per day" shocker.....

How can you take enought time out of work to get a job?

Normally an interview is a day off work, and the pre stages often involve spending several hours.

Are we now expected to spend a month a year looking for a job?

Any decent candidates won't apply because basically they can pick up a decent £500 a day contract from one interview, that means they'll be inviting the dross in to go through a long and time wasting exercise.

[HairyArsedBloke]

What are the 7 stages?

I was wondering that.

I am so glad I don't have to go through all this anymore.

In these days of lean this and agile that, what is the point of long drawn out recruitment procedures like this.

Is it any wonder that so few manage to get through the whole process and that firms discover that they cannot find people, or is that the point.