Reply to: Market rates in {insert name of German ERP package we don't mention}

[oxtailsoup]

I did my SAP Technical certification in 2000 at a cost of £12k plus 7 weeks downtime.

In my opinion it didn't get me any work. You cannot beat experience.

However my current client did request a SAP certified contractor. So in the end it got me a nice gig. But to be honest there are plenty of gigs out there for SAP anyway.

[dude69]

I'm an SAP PM (technical) and I'm currently getting £550 per day plus all expenses (that amounts to another £500 per week roughly). I know the client is paying the agent £690 per day as I see the cost in my project budgets.

My contract is 50/50 (onsite in London/work from home).

You're both getting ripped off. 25% agency fee!?!?

Obscene.

They should be paying 12-13% (and after a few renewals frankly this should be more like 5% IMO)

Demand they reduce it and give you the money.

[Zorba]

Who does courses nowadays? It's not as though SAP isn't the kind of thing you can't pick up as you go along.

I do, and then I stupidly don't use them.

[NotAllThere]

Who does courses nowadays? It's not as though SAP isn't the kind of thing you can't pick up as you go along.

[Pondlife]

I see your APO and raise you an SEM

Was that a two or three day course

[NotAllThere]

I see your APO and raise you an SEM

[Pondlife]

Rates are pretty good in the .net arena for functional guys at the mo. £700 is not uncommon for senior consultants with a decent CV.

Seems to be a couple of long running projects going on as well.

If there are any other APO types out there PM me.

The future's bright, the future's .net.

[oxtailsoup]

I'm an SAP PM (technical) and I'm currently getting £550 per day plus all expenses (that amounts to another £500 per week roughly). I know the client is paying the agent £690 per day as I see the cost in my project budgets.

My contract is 50/50 (onsite in London/work from home).

[Zorba]

Does anyone know how I might get back into the SAP world? I used to be an ABAPper back in 2000 but jumped ship to work in other technologies. I wouldn't mind getting back into something more stable than my current stint.

There are lots of 'sexy' new technologies but if you can still write an ABAP and do a layout (not going to use the proper word here) you can get work. Price it cheap, get on a gig, pick up new stuff. Lots of upgrades around now.


EDIT: WindyAnna - need any techies?

[NotAllThere]

Does anyone know how I might get back into the SAP world? I used to be an ABAPper back in 2000 but jumped ship to work in other technologies. I wouldn't mind getting back into something more stable than my current stint.

Move to India.

[rootsnall]

Does anyone know how I might get back into the SAP world? I used to be an ABAPper back in 2000 but jumped ship to work in other technologies. I wouldn't mind getting back into something more stable than my current stint.

Go back through your CV, chop out some of the non ABAP post 2000 stuff and insert some ABAP stuff in its place, quite easy really. I also jumped ship circa 2000 but came to my senses when I got back into low level coding and my brain started to hurt.

BUT remember .Net is the future !

[ChimpMaster]

Does anyone know how I might get back into the SAP world? I used to be an ABAPper back in 2000 but jumped ship to work in other technologies. I wouldn't mind getting back into something more stable than my current stint.

[rootsnall]

The rates do seem to rise and fall very quickly these days and at the moment the market does seem to be pretty buoyant and anybody who wants to be is working already. Hence big rates ! I would go to a couple of the well known '.Net' agencies and see what they can turn up. Have you tried the one named after a shape and a number ? They'll have the CV of a high percentage of experienced contract PM's and would know what rate is required.

[NotAllThere]

Developers should be able to get £450-600 a day in SAP. Functional £500-£800 or more. If I was to take a PM role I'd be looking certainly at £750+. Well, actually, given the fact I hate doing PM, I wouldn't do it for less than £3000 a day.

There's loads of work around. Rates are good. (But not silly like 97-99 ).

You can still get cheap developers. But they'll cost you more.

[Zorba]

Would be surprised to pay less than £600/day for a PM worth having. Also, the Accountant turned data monkey is probably trying it on - if you had a 'proper' FICO person you could safely add another £150 to that for starters. Yes, there are still people putting £1K away for this.

Even code monkeys are over the £500 mark now - getting expensive to run a project unfortunately.

Allegedly of course - I do .net not that German ERP stuff.