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Previously on "Is Contract Spy legit"

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by DrewG View Post

    It looks like a web scraper, it could be a one man operation.
    which comes back my first point - I don't believe they have a big enough source of direct-with-client contracts opportunities to make it worthwhile.

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  • DrewG
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    Originally posted by eek View Post

    +1 - it's a bargain which opens up the question of do they have enough money to actual source the direct contracts. Other companies that work in this area charge £1000s for similar services.
    It looks like a web scraper, it could be a one man operation.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by courtg9000 View Post

    I do agree with you mostly and £250 for some good business is not bad value. I just wouldn't feel comfortable about spending £250 with this outfit and getting a return but hey that's just me.
    +1 - it's a bargain which opens up the question of do they have enough money to actual source the direct contracts. Other companies that work in this area charge £1000s for similar services.

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  • courtg9000
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    Originally posted by DrewG View Post

    If you can land direct contracts, the 250 is definitely worth it.

    Once you're in direct, you can upsell and cross sell services which you can't do as an agency contractor.

    I was the lead architect on an ERP migration over 4 years ago, I sold support services (hired two contractors in Asia) and I still have that client to this day. That contract started direct. No way that could have happened through an agency. I got further work through the PE firm that owned the client.

    Getting direct work can be the difference between forever needing to beg recruiters for attention and starting a genuine practice, even if it's just a one man practive.
    I do agree with you mostly and £250 for some good business is not bad value. I just wouldn't feel comfortable about spending £250 with this outfit and getting a return but hey that's just me.

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  • DrewG
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    Originally posted by courtg9000 View Post
    Looks like a web scraper to me.
    I'll bet a lot of their subscribers are agency staff hunting for new leads.
    Just had a look at the Twitter feed. I feel that some of the clients they list as direct might not be totally true. For example I can't see the Cabinet Office going direct to contractor. That of course could just be me.
    I can't see the return on investment for £250 pa.
    If you can land direct contracts, the 250 is definitely worth it.

    Once you're in direct, you can upsell and cross sell services which you can't do as an agency contractor.

    I was the lead architect on an ERP migration over 4 years ago, I sold support services (hired two contractors in Asia) and I still have that client to this day. That contract started direct. No way that could have happened through an agency. I got further work through the PE firm that owned the client.

    Getting direct work can be the difference between forever needing to beg recruiters for attention and starting a genuine practice, even if it's just a one man practive.
    Last edited by DrewG; 5 June 2023, 16:18.

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  • courtg9000
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    Looks like a web scraper to me.
    I'll bet a lot of their subscribers are agency staff hunting for new leads.
    Just had a look at the Twitter feed. I feel that some of the clients they list as direct might not be totally true. For example I can't see the Cabinet Office going direct to contractor. That of course could just be me.
    I can't see the return on investment for £250 pa.

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  • Eirikur
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    On their Twitterfeed you can see what positions they (claim to) have. They seem to be direct with companies, which they name so should be easy to apply for them without going through them
    https://twitter.com/ContractSpy?ref_...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by DrewG View Post
    They claim to scan job boards and ATS systems to consolidate ads for direct-with-client contract opportunities.

    It costs 250/quid/year to join.


    I've had on and off success trying to stop dealing with recruiters. Is this legit?
    Is it legit? I believe so. Is it worth the money? I highly doubt.

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  • DrewG
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    Originally posted by eek View Post

    Doubt it - but they are making £250 a year from fools willing to sign up.

    If they were any good they would be allowing you to see the jobs for free but not allowing you to see the contact details so I would go for scam.
    If you show me the job, I will find the poster on Google. What incentive would they have to show the job?

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by DrewG View Post
    They claim to scan job boards and ATS systems to consolidate ads for direct-with-client contract opportunities.

    It costs 250/quid/year to join.


    I've had on and off success trying to stop dealing with recruiters. Is this legit?
    Doubt it - but they are making £250 a year from fools willing to sign up.

    If they were any good they would be allowing you to see the jobs for free but not allowing you to see the contact details so I would go for scam.

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  • DrewG
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    Is Contract Spy legit

    They claim to scan job boards and ATS systems to consolidate ads for direct-with-client contract opportunities.

    It costs 250/quid/year to join.


    I've had on and off success trying to stop dealing with recruiters. Is this legit?
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