4 On 4 Off 12hr Shifts

[Lance]

Are you inside or outside IR35?

shifts = inside IMO. Every day.

[northernladuk]

Are you inside or outside IR35?

[WTFH]

My contract states I am limited to 42.5hrs a week though the company is asking me to join a 4x4 rota with 12hr shifts. That's 48hrs a week right.

I am understanding this correctly? I've heard from a colleague (permie) that the hours are worked out as an average factoring in the 4 days off you get. So using 12 x 4 / 8 x 7 we get 42 hours. But that's over 8 days. Fine if you are a permie but I am not.

The way I see it to make this work I could do say 3x 12hr shifts and a 6.5hr totaling 42.5hrs.

Any advice on how to approach this? Or let me know if I am way off!

Not sure what industry it is that you're working in, but if you're not happy then be prepared to walk away.

As for their calculation, it is correct. 4 on, 4 off is not the same as 5 on 2 off. You're working 48 hours every 8 days. You're NOT working 48 hours "per week". When you factor in the 4 off, it means you're working the equivalent of a 42 hour week

If you would prefer to work 42 hours as 3x12 and 1x6, then you could propose that to the company, but I suspect it will mess up their capacity planning having you working Monday-Thursday every week, where you'll be with different groups during your working week.

[eek]

My contract states I am limited to 42.5hrs a week though the company is asking me to join a 4x4 rota with 12hr shifts. That's 48hrs a week right.

I am understanding this correctly? I've heard from a colleague (permie) that the hours are worked out as an average factoring in the 4 days off you get. So using 12 x 4 / 8 x 7 we get 42 hours. But that's over 8 days. Fine if you are a permie but I am not.

The way I see it to make this work I could do say 3x 12hr shifts and a 6.5hr totaling 42.5hrs.

Any advice on how to approach this? Or let me know if I am way off!

You are way off - that 42.5 hours can be averaged out over 17 weeks and is what is occurring here (48M hours one week, 36 hours the next = a 42 hour week on average).

If you don't like it start looking elsewhere because that entire business / client will be based on that work pattern...

[Ninkasi]

My contract states I am limited to 42.5hrs a week though the company is asking me to join a 4x4 rota with 12hr shifts. That's 48hrs a week right.

I am understanding this correctly? I've heard from a colleague (permie) that the hours are worked out as an average factoring in the 4 days off you get. So using 12 x 4 / 8 x 7 we get 42 hours. But that's over 8 days. Fine if you are a permie but I am not.

The way I see it to make this work I could do say 3x 12hr shifts and a 6.5hr totaling 42.5hrs.

Any advice on how to approach this? Or let me know if I am way off!