Reply to: Agency trying to force they're umbrella companies - can they do this?

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To be fair I think we can publish that now

I think that was a joke based on my Orange Genie comment (which I still can't publish but had actually forgotten about as it's only about No 11 in dodgy things umbrellas do (Advance are higher up the list)...

[PerfectStorm]

Not Parasol for reasons I can't publish

To be fair I think we can publish that now

[ITContrator]

In what way have they gone downhill?

I'm still with them, so will be conservative with what I say.

They had me (unnecessarily according to HMRC) on a week 1 tax code for approx 13 weeks, never did a thing to resolve the matter, it was me who had to make the endless phone calls to HMRC, bit alarming earning £4800 in a month and getting paid £2338, and shortly afterwards £1500 in a single week and only netting £750, had just the one single call from OG when trying to resolve the matter.

After opting out of the worst rated pension scheme (according to FT), previously deducted pensions refunded, yet the payslip makes little sense.

Even now, my weekly pay appears to drop whenever I submit "chargeable expenses", don't understand why I receive a tax rebate on each chargeable expense payslip, which is a separate payslip from my weekly earnings. Usually Net Expected Pay + Chargeable Expense, doesn't equal Usually Net Expected Pay + Value of Chargeable Expense, if you get my drift.

I pour over the payslips, one for expenses, one for earnings, scratching my head how and why have they done what they have and come away with the impression there is clever accounting taking place, not necessarily in my favour.

I consider OG the new Parasol, simply baffle them figures and lingo. Call them up and it's like listening to a script which has you finally agreeing and non the wiser after you have hung up.

[eek]

In what way have they gone downhill?

Just found what I've spent the weekend hunting for.

Can I just say multiple Orange Genie payroll and payment summaries don't seem to add up (and that comes from 3 different sources).

[saptastic]

I've always recommended Orange Genie, not sure why but they have gone right down hill, would suggest contractors given them a wide berth.

In what way have they gone downhill?

[ITContrator]

I've always recommended Orange Genie, not sure why but they have gone right down hill, would suggest contractors given them a wide berth.

[northernladuk]

I thought JSA would have been perfect for Psychocandy

That's what I said but he didn't get it.

[TestMangler]

Not Parasol for reasons I can't publish
Nor Exact
Nor JSA

I thought JSA would have been perfect for Psychocandy

[psychocandy]

Bearing in mind you had your JSA/UC thread locked in General of all places and the stick you get for mentioning it do you really think that posting that is doing you any favours at all? You really are a prize idiot.

Honestly, NLUK you need to chill a bit and get a sense of humour.....

[northernladuk]

Not enough JSA mun or I would - Got my first £149 coming soon.

Bearing in mind you had your JSA/UC thread locked in General of all places and the stick you get for mentioning it do you really think that posting that is doing you any favours at all? You really are a prize idiot.

[psychocandy]

If you go look in the Umbrella section where you might have posted this you will see we've many many posts on exactly this question listing the same umbrellas.

Do a search on each of the brolly names to look for feedback and you'll also find the posts where this type of thing has been discussed over the last year.

You've been around here long enough, you should know this type of stuff has been covered so start doing a bit of searching and start putting a bit of effort in to posting in the right part of the forum.

Do your best to push for Clarity Umbrella though. They are FCSA approved so should no reason they can't use them.

To be fair though, I though JSA would have been a dream for you. You could still spout off about being on JSA endlessly

Not enough JSA mun or I would - Got my first £149 coming soon.

[northernladuk]

• JSA Group: 0800 252640 (option 2)
• Advance Contracting Limited : 01244 564 564
• Orange Genie Limited: www.orangegenie.com 01296 468 483
• Parasol 08004580818
• Exact Payroll Limited: 01633 277339

Any recommendations?

Not Parasol for reasons I can't publish
Nor Exact
Nor JSA

[northernladuk]

If you go look in the Umbrella section where you might have posted this you will see we've many many posts on exactly this question listing the same umbrellas.

Do a search on each of the brolly names to look for feedback and you'll also find the posts where this type of thing has been discussed over the last year.

You've been around here long enough, you should know this type of stuff has been covered so start doing a bit of searching and start putting a bit of effort in to posting in the right part of the forum.

Do your best to push for Clarity Umbrella though. They are FCSA approved so should no reason they can't use them.

To be fair though, I though JSA would have been a dream for you. You could still spout off about being on JSA endlessly

[eek]

• JSA Group: 0800 252640 (option 2)
• Advance Contracting Limited : www.advance.online 01244 564 564
• Orange Genie Limited: 01296 468 483
• Parasol 08004580818
• Exact Payroll Limited: .co.uk 01633 277339

Any recommendations?

Well not Orange Genie for reasons I cannot publish in public.

Nor Advance (for different reasons I again can't publish)



As I said in my previous post as that's an FCSA list, ask if your "existing" umbrella (Clarity) can be used then get Lucy to sort it out

[psychocandy]

Yes they can

Agencies have valid reasons (tax clawback from HMRC for non payment) to only accept business from umbrella firms they are willing to trust.

You then have two "regulators" who are neither regulators nor actually that competent.

So who is the agency and what umbrellas are they offering. If they are using FCSA ones than give Clarity a call and see what Lucy can do.

• JSA Group: 0800 252640 (option 2)
• Advance Contracting Limited : 01244 564 564
• Orange Genie Limited: 01296 468 483
• Parasol https://parasolgroup.co.uk/ 08004580818
• Exact Payroll Limited: 01633 277339

Any recommendations?