Reply to: New starter checklist: A, B or C?

[Hollyhock]

And what did he say?

He said it was very clearly statement A, because HMRC won't consider my freelance dalliances as a 'job'.

[fidot]

Sorry if it wasn't clear. It's not really a 'dead end' reference though, as it relates to the HMRC questions directly. They specifically ask whether you had another 'job' in the current tax year and I simply wanted to know if my self employment from earlier in the year counted as a job or not, since it's about as clear as mud.

Statement C

- Choose this statement if:

• you have another job and/or

But no matter, I've asked my accountant now, which despite his usual slowness probably would have saved me more time had I done it instead of coming on here in the first place.

And what did he say?

[Hollyhock]

Nope, still not seeing it. I see the 3 options, but not the question that leads to that selection. There's a dead-end reference to asking about a "job". WTFH's first post has added the context setting you missed:

Sorry if it wasn't clear. It's not really a 'dead end' reference though, as it relates to the HMRC questions directly. They specifically ask whether you had another 'job' in the current tax year and I simply wanted to know if my self employment from earlier in the year counted as a job or not, since it's about as clear as mud.

Statement C

- Choose this statement if:

• you have another job and/or

But no matter, I've asked my accountant now, which despite his usual slowness probably would have saved me more time had I done it instead of coming on here in the first place.

[Paralytic]

See the OP's first post on this thread...

I included them in my original post?

Nope, still not seeing it. I see the 3 options, but not the question that leads to that selection. There's a dead-end reference to asking about a "job". WTFH's first post has added the context setting you missed:

Your present circumstances
Read all the following statements carefully and enter 'X' in the one box that applies to you.

[WTFH]

How is it B? - he is self employed which means he hasn't had what the PAYE section of HMRC regards as a job and which is contained within an entirely different section of a self assessment form as it is taxed in an entirely different way to PAYE employment...

For a Mod you have managed to fail to ask sensible questions 3 times and then got the answer wrong due to an inability to understand what HMRC is actually asking...

I must humbly apologise. If HMRC say they did not have a job, then it's A.


(For Paralytic and others, see post 10 of the thread which shows the question as it is worded on the form)

[Hollyhock]

Er, how about the question that is being asked to which you have to select A, B or C?

I included them in my original post?

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2795244

If I was confused when I came on here I'm certainly none the wiser now!

[eek]

Er, how about the question that is being asked to which you have to select A, B or C?

See the OP's first post on this thread...

[Paralytic]

I wrote the three options out in full - exactly as they appear on the HMRC page - in my initial post, along with a synopsis of the relevant facts about my situation. Not sure what you were looking at, but I certainly didn't think I'd left out anything pertinent.

Er, how about the question that is being asked to which you have to select A, B or C?

[eek]

OK, I think the issue is that the OP hasn't bothered to tell us about the options they are filling in, just some other stuff.
Not very helpful!

If the OP means this section:


Then the answer is B.

If they are asking about some other part of the form or something else that we have to guess, then only they can know, based on the lack of information given by them.

How is it B? - he is self employed which means he hasn't had what the PAYE section of HMRC regards as a job and which is contained within an entirely different section of a self assessment form as it is taxed in an entirely different way to PAYE employment...

For a Mod you have managed to fail to ask sensible questions 3 times and then got the answer wrong due to an inability to understand what HMRC is actually asking...

[Hollyhock]

OK, I think the issue is that the OP hasn't bothered to tell us about the options they are filling in, just some other stuff.
Not very helpful!

If the OP means this section:


Then the answer is B.

If they are asking about some other part of the form or something else that we have to guess, then only they can know, based on the lack of information given by them.

I wrote the three options out in full - exactly as they appear on the HMRC page - in my initial post, along with a synopsis of the relevant facts about my situation. Not sure what you were looking at, but I certainly didn't think I'd left out anything pertinent.

https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2795244

Anyway thanks for taking the time to help.

[eek]

Is it really a Fixed Term Contract... Like a job.. Or a contract that has a fixed end date?

HMRC don't care about that - this is about how they handle the PAYE registration given that there is no P60 to work from.

[northernladuk]

Is it really a Fixed Term Contract... Like a job.. Or a contract that has a fixed end date?

[WTFH]

OK, I think the issue is that the OP hasn't bothered to tell us about the options they are filling in, just some other stuff.
Not very helpful!

If the OP means this section:

Your present circumstances
Read all the following statements carefully and enter 'X' in the one box that applies to you.
A – This is my first job since last 6 April and I have not been receiving taxable Jobseeker's Allowance, Employment and Support Allowance or taxable Incapacity Benefit or a state or occupational pension.
OR
B – This is now my only job, but since last 6 April I have had another job, or have received taxable Jobseeker's Allowance, Employment and Support Allowance or taxable Incapacity Benefit. I do not receive a state or occupational pension.
OR
C – I have another job or receive a state or occupational pension.

Then the answer is B.

If they are asking about some other part of the form or something else that we have to guess, then only they can know, based on the lack of information given by them.

[eek]

Thanks - but would this translate to A, B or C in the HMRC list?

Once again it's A

As it's not C - you don't have a pension or a continuing PAYE job

and it's not B - as you haven't been claiming benefits and you are self employed which isn't an issue as that will be sorted out in your tax return next year.

[Hollyhock]

Best fit:

• About to start new contract through umbrella company

Thanks - but would this translate to A, B or C in the HMRC list?