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Previously on "With agency now - looking to go direct"

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    That was the hidden message in my original post on this thread!
    Next time, just say it!

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    Good point, I was actually thinking about this, the client didn't mention anything when I told them about my handcuff clause. I'll just wait to see what they come back with.
    That was the hidden message in my original post on this thread!

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by Andy Hallett View Post
    I suspect YOU can get out of this restraint relatively easily.

    However, your client may have a transfer fee specified on their side and that might be commercially unviable to go direct for them.
    Good point, I was actually thinking about this, the client didn't mention anything when I told them about my handcuff clause. I'll just wait to see what they come back with.

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  • Andy Hallett
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    I suspect YOU can get out of this restraint relatively easily.

    However, your client may have a transfer fee specified on their side and that might be commercially unviable to go direct for them.

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Ah okay. Fixed cost on what payment schedule?
    Deliverable/Milestone based. Milestones every 2 - 6 weeks depending on deliverable.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    My contract states that they want my LTD to pay. I was wondering what ways are there around it. Client is on my side.

    What's a handshake clause?

    Opted out (or no contract)...
    close the LTD and go direct with a new one.


    EDIT: just seen last update. Good luck. The agency will likely want the client to pony up something.
    Last edited by Lance; 13 March 2020, 12:31.

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  • LondonManc
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    Nothing to do with avoiding IR35. Current contract assessed outside IR35 by the client. Next contract outside as well but they want to go fixed cost, so the agency is somewhat redundant (all risk is on my LTD).
    Ah okay. Fixed cost on what payment schedule?

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    The project/technical manager has asked HR / Legal to deal with the agency and see what they can do.
    Fair enough. Best of luck!

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Which bit of the client though? Your "line manager", an executive, Human Remains, the legal team? There are sound business reasons for them using an agency as well as binding contracts that might get in the way.

    Obviously you know far more about the reality than I do, but just be aware it is not necessarily as easy as it looks. And don't forget you are also picking up additional financial risk without the agency in the middle.
    The project/technical manager has asked HR / Legal to deal with the agency and see what they can do.

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Why do you want to go direct? If you think it's to avoid IR35, think again; your limited company becomes the intermediary so you'd still be at whim of the determination of the end client as to your status.
    Nothing to do with avoiding IR35. Current contract assessed outside IR35 by the client. Next contract outside as well but they want to go fixed cost, so the agency is somewhat redundant (all risk is on my LTD).

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    Why do you want to go direct? If you think it's to avoid IR35, think again; your limited company becomes the intermediary so you'd still be at whim of the determination of the end client as to your status.
    +1 - half a thread on the issue can be seen https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...n-account.html until we switched to an R&D tax credit discussion.

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  • LondonManc
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    Why do you want to go direct? If you think it's to avoid IR35, think again; your limited company becomes the intermediary so you'd still be at whim of the determination of the end client as to your status.

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    Yes, the client said they'll deal with the agency.
    Which bit of the client though? Your "line manager", an executive, Human Remains, the legal team? There are sound business reasons for them using an agency as well as binding contracts that might get in the way.

    Obviously you know far more about the reality than I do, but just be aware it is not necessarily as easy as it looks. And don't forget you are also picking up additional financial risk without the agency in the middle.

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  • zonkkk
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    Originally posted by perplexed View Post
    No, it doesn't.
    Thanks, do you have any other useful insights into my contract?

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  • perplexed
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    Originally posted by zonkkk View Post
    It does say the Company or the Representative, so it kind of does 'name' me...
    No, it doesn't.

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