How could this job be outside IR35?

[Andy2]

Yes, I have refused it.
This IR35 is a stupid game that UK government force more UK companies to outsource jobs to Indian agency without saving any money. The IR35 just can create bigger profit for Indian middle-man agents. Only those Indian outsourcing agents are the winner.

exactly, my client has handed over whole projects to indian outsourcers and is firing all contractors

[smilesmile]

Why are you even this far in? As soon as they said it was an Indian outsourcer you should have said no thanks. Ok times are hard so maybe worth hearing them out but as soon as they said £300 you should have hung up. Previously 500 and they want 300 and you are still talking to them?

Spam your contacts at the clients as said and then move on.

Yes, I have refused it.
This IR35 is a stupid game that UK government force more UK companies to outsource jobs to Indian agency without saving any money. The IR35 just can create bigger profit for Indian middle-man agents. Only those Indian outsourcing agents are the winner.

[northernladuk]

Why are you even this far in? As soon as they said it was an Indian outsourcer you should have said no thanks. Ok times are hard so maybe worth hearing them out but as soon as they said £300 you should have hung up. Previously 500 and they want 300 and you are still talking to them?

Spam your contacts at the clients as said and then move on.

[ladymuck]

Ring your contact at the client from when you were there last and see what's what.

^^ this. If you left on good terms then there is no harm calling / emailling the person you worked with last time and asking.

You may even find they suggest a different agency...

[Eirikur]

Also check out the Indian agency thread: https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...rating-uk.html

[amanwhoisquiet]

Ring your contact at the client from when you were there last and see what's what.

[WTFH]

Thank you!
I am so sorry to send the message twice. I didn't found the first message I posted. So, I post it again. It is my first time to post on this forum.

I've merged the two threads into 1

[smilesmile]

Step 1 - read what IR35 is - help to the left --------------------->
Step 2 - don't trust agencies
Step 3 - At the moment it's your responsibility to determine the IR35 status - help to the left --------------------->
Step 4 - In 2 months time all may change - read this https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/ir35-reform/
Step 5 - make sure you've not posted the same question twice in the same forum..... @Mods please do the needful

And yes. HMRC may want the IR35 tax if you get it wrong.

Thank you!
I am so sorry to send the message twice. I didn't found the first message I posted. So, I post it again. It is my first time to post on this forum.

[Lance]

An Indian agency told me they want to hire me as a contractor because I once worked for the same client 2 years ago.She said the daily rate is 300£ per day for the same job and told me this contract job is outside IR35. But I was paid 500£ per day when I worked for this client 2 years ago. The end client is a big company. This Indian agency has offices in many countries, so I think it should be a big agency.
I wonder how could this job be outside IR35? Should I trust her? Will HRMC ask the "IR35 tax" from me in the future?

Step 1 - read what IR35 is - help to the left --------------------->
Step 2 - don't trust agencies
Step 3 - At the moment it's your responsibility to determine the IR35 status - help to the left --------------------->
Step 4 - In 2 months time all may change - read this https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/ir35-reform/
Step 5 - make sure you've not posted the same question twice in the same forum..... @Mods please do the needful

And yes. HMRC may want the IR35 tax if you get it wrong.

[NotAllThere]

No. You should not trust them.

[smilesmile]

An Indian agency tell me they want to hire me as a contractor because I once worked for the same client 2 years ago.She said the daily rate is 300£ per day for the same job and said this contract is outside IR35. But I was paid 500£ per day when I worked for this client 2 years ago. The end client is a big company. This Indian agency has offices in many countries, so I think it should be a big agency.
I wonder how could this job be outside IR35? Should I trust her? Will HRMC ask the "IR35 tax" from me in the future?