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  • sal
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    When I was going through this process, the agent, who was internal for the Tier 1 bank specifically asked me to provide a "sanitized" copy of my CV for him to forward to the 3rd party running the checks. He advised me to remove any certification, professional qualifications and degrees i didn't have readily available proof of. Also to provide agency contacts, rather than client contacts for my previous roles (which i'm doing anyway, when asked for 2 references etc.).

    Come clean with them, tell them it was an old CV and send them the correct copy. Then use the same truthful details in the 3rd party form.

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  • uk contractor
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    Originally posted by griff2010 View Post
    Hi all,

    Many thanks for your responses - definitely of great help!

    The three month role I left off my CV was a step up from previous positions, but similar in industry and overall responsibilities. I then decided it was time for a career change, so left the industry to join a new one, and did so when I had my three month review - my own choice and not that of my employer. They will give me a positive reference.

    I think in this situation honesty is the best policy, as advised by you all. Hopefully they will not have an issue with the above explanation! I'll keep you posted
    Honesty is best before now you will come across as desperate to start the job it does not look good as it seems the industry hopping angle made you fail to mention it.

    Not sure how on earth you can explain away why you failed to mention it at the interview stage as the first questions are usually around your last role!?

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  • griff2010
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    Hi all,

    Many thanks for your responses - definitely of great help!

    The three month role I left off my CV was a step up from previous positions, but similar in industry and overall responsibilities. I then decided it was time for a career change, so left the industry to join a new one, and did so when I had my three month review - my own choice and not that of my employer. They will give me a positive reference.

    I think in this situation honesty is the best policy, as advised by you all. Hopefully they will not have an issue with the above explanation! I'll keep you posted

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  • HugeWhale
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    Originally posted by griff2010 View Post
    Hi all,

    I've accepted a contract at a tier 1 investment bank but stupidly sent an old CV that didn't include a three month role. The role was my most recent job,
    Omitting a previous role is understandable (I struggle to recall exactly what I was doing 20 years ago!) but omitting your most recent role was a serious oversight. You've been offered a contract based on misrepresentation. Ticking off done: you don't need a lecture from me. So what next?

    Depends on what your most recent role was.

    I) If it was a genuine oversight and you've been acting as Advisor Emeritus to the CEO of Barclays, you should disclose it without fear.

    II) If however you were shovelling elephant tulip at Chester zoo and got sacked for incompetence, you've got to bluff it out.
    Maybe claim that it was only relevant experience you were listing on your CV, or downplay it completely: your most recent role was only a small zero-hour temp role till you secured a contract so you felt no reason to mention it as it was so trivial; you were actually working for your brother in a very informal way while you pursued more serious opportunities...and if they ask for a contact at the company, give them the phone number of the HR department. They'll just confirm that "Mr Griff worked here from A->B in the role of tulip shoveller" and not that you were literally not fit to shovel tulip.

    Only you know whether it was an accidental or deliberate omission and whether the disclosure could threaten the contract.

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  • uk contractor
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    Come clean & hope for the best but many will decline your application due to the dishonesty angle even if its a genuine mistake they do not hear that bit just assume what else is not factually correct either & dig deeper as its sounds very suspicious as it appears you did not want to mention it some reason even in the interview it proves your dishonest for not talking about it when they ask what have you been doing recently! They are pointless box ticking exercise anyway as existing staff do not have to face the same level of scrutiny so unless its a level playing field for all its a waste of time & money as existing staff are just as (if not more capable) of doing naughty things onsite with data & other scams than outsiders. It should just be police & credit checks as well as bank statements but they go too far on the must check the cv indepth & get references which mean nothing anyway as no-one can give you a bad reference. They may even decline a reference purely because their internal compliance data protection policy insists on that!

    Good luck but if you do not hear anything back within a few days move onto something else.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by tarbera View Post
    Please remember you are "Employed" by your own limited company - You had a contract with your previous "Client" you are never "unemployed" between "Clients"
    This was my first thought but bearing in mind the OP says this is his first contract I assumed he really did mean employed. Its also possible they actually call it. That said good general point made.

    The second thing that struck me was if it was just for three months it sounds awfully like a probationary period that didn't work out which is why he might have 'forgotten' to include it.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 7 February 2018, 11:52.

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  • tarbera
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    confused??

    Originally posted by griff2010 View Post
    Hi all,

    Excuse my first post / first time contractor ignorance

    I've accepted a contract at a tier 1 investment bank but stupidly sent an old CV that didn't include a three month role. The role was my most recent job, so as it stands it looks like I've been unemployed for the last 3/4 months. Major error basically. I reckon I have two options and could really do with some words of wisdom if anyone cares to share. Options as follows;

    1.) Come clean, send an updated CV as soon as the screening team contact me and say I'm sorry, a mistake has been made. The omitted position is totally unrelated to the prospective role.

    2.) Just go with the old CV and hope for the best. I hear though that IB's will ask for 'proof of unemployment'. Does anyone know what acceptable forms of said proof might be for a major IB? I have heard bank statements are the only form. Is this the case? I read this post that seems to allude to this but I'm struggling to get any real detail or confirmation

    Thanks in advance all
    Please remember you are "Employed" by your own limited company - You had a contract with your previous "Client" you are never "unemployed" between "Clients"

    Pre-employment screening is a box ticking exercise by drowns please make sure you updated CV has

    correct From To Dates (Jan 2016 - Feb 2017) - and Correct Title (Project Manager) - these are only things they check

    I once nearly did not pass as I had change Manager rather than Project Manager on my CV, and past agent had me down wrong

    Also some banks you will fail pre-contract checks with a few late credit card payments on your credit file, others only with a default

    Good Luck

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  • Eirikur
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    I've done a variation on 2 and no one noticed it, as the check is done by another agency, not the recruitment agency. So I filled out the screening agencies forms correctly, so I didn't have to explain any gaps
    Last edited by Eirikur; 7 February 2018, 10:02.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by sketchandsunshine View Post
    What they said above.

    Bit odd that the role you had for 3 months is completely unrelated to the prospective role though. It might look like you’ve omitted it on purpose if it was something random.

    Either way they’ve offered it to you so they won’t pull your offer based on you sending an updated cv.

    Part of the on-boarding checks they may ask for a copy of your cv anyway, in my experience they always have, as they don’t want the one which comes from the agents.
    That's what I thought. Much easier to believe than 'accidently sent the wrong CV'.

    And yes, if the information changes their decision they could quite well pull the offer. The OP has misrepresented himself so the original offer could be deemed invalid..

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  • MrButton
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    What they said above.

    Bit odd that the role you had for 3 months is completely unrelated to the prospective role though. It might look like you’ve omitted it on purpose if it was something random.

    Either way they’ve offered it to you so they won’t pull your offer based on you sending an updated cv.

    Part of the on-boarding checks they may ask for a copy of your cv anyway, in my experience they always have, as they don’t want the one which comes from the agents.

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  • WTFH
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    Option 1.

    Tell the truth, then you don't have to remember as much.

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  • northernladuk
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    +1 to the above.

    Banks will do extended checks and uncover this.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 6 February 2018, 23:46.

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  • heyya99
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    Come clean, is my advice. I was vetted for the IB I'm in now and I was grateful throughout the process that I didn't lie on my CV.

    If they hired you, they must be ok with you being out of work or 3 months; you actually being employed would only make you a stronger candidate.

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  • First contract - pre employment screening in tier 1 bank

    Hi all,

    Excuse my first post / first time contractor ignorance

    I've accepted a contract at a tier 1 investment bank but stupidly sent an old CV that didn't include a three month role. The role was my most recent job, so as it stands it looks like I've been unemployed for the last 3/4 months. Major error basically. I reckon I have two options and could really do with some words of wisdom if anyone cares to share. Options as follows;

    1.) Come clean, send an updated CV as soon as the screening team contact me and say I'm sorry, a mistake has been made. The omitted position is totally unrelated to the prospective role.

    2.) Just go with the old CV and hope for the best. I hear though that IB's will ask for 'proof of unemployment'. Does anyone know what acceptable forms of said proof might be for a major IB? I have heard bank statements are the only form. Is this the case? I read this post that seems to allude to this but I'm struggling to get any real detail or confirmation

    Thanks in advance all

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