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Originally posted by Chelseagirl View PostThank you for your responses.
I had a meeting with the VP and they agreed to change the contract.
However my outstanding problem is with the person I “report” to. She treats me like an employee and wants to have a one on one meeting with me.
How do I tell her that I can’t have one on ones with her to talk about my “progress” as I’m not an employee?
Thanks
If she wants to give you a formal appraisal then I'd tell her to "do one" - only someone with a career at the company needs one of them
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Originally posted by Chelseagirl View PostI didn’t have to prove I was a contractor I was just explaining how IR35 works to them and how it limited my duties to what was written in the contract as opposed to what they were expecting (more work unrelated to the project I was assigned, filling in for missing employees, working on other projects not mentioned in the contract).
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Originally posted by chopper View PostI always thought there was some kind of rule of thumb, whereby if your daily rate is below a certain point then there is no point incorporating from a tax perspective, and you may as well use an umbrella company as that would work out cheaper than accountancy fees.
And that £170 a day is below that level?
(But yes, the primary reason for us being contractors is because we've seen beyond the corporate bulltulip reviews, 1:1s and integrating with the team).
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I always thought there was some kind of rule of thumb, whereby if your daily rate is below a certain point then there is no point incorporating from a tax perspective, and you may as well use an umbrella company as that would work out cheaper than accountancy fees.
And that £170 a day is below that level?
(But yes, the primary reason for us being contractors is because we've seen beyond the corporate bulltulip reviews, 1:1s and integrating with the team).
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Originally posted by Chelseagirl View PostI don’t work in IT. My usual day rate is £250 but I accepted £170 because I didn’t want to get bored in January.
Anyway I’ve quit now and have other clients to cater to who don’t feel like they own me.
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Originally posted by silverlight1 View PostIMO the CRSE survey is tulip.
It states that the hourly earnings of "IT and Related Professions" is the same as "Cleaners" and that builders earn more than IT professionals!
If that was truly the case and the average IT contractor earned £7.80 there wouldn't be a whole industry of recruitment "pimps" driving around in fast cars.
Ahh, "IT and Related Professions" That includes IT Support call centre staff - I can tell you from working in HR for a company who uses "contractors" to staff their help desk that these rates are extremely low... Lower than you'd get away with paying a permie. Thats going to bring down the average.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostWhere did you get that from? Seems a bit hard to believe.
All I can find is a calculator on the Crunch site which says otherwise
https://www.crunch.co.uk/knowledge/day-rate-calculator/
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostIf you didn't get your contract checked how did you know you were outside at all?
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostIf you didn't get your contract checked how did you know you were outside at all?
I got my contract checked and it falls outside of IR35. Its their practices that were not and which I tried to resist.
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If you didn't get your contract checked how did you know you were outside at all?
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostI was being serious. IR35 isn't tick box and the last resource you need is the HMRC's. It isn't concerning. They didn't want a contractor, they want a temp. It's as simple as that and it's game over for you. Nothing more you can do here except pay the proper taxes and pay travel and subsistence back and move on.
I'm more concerned you had to go through HMRC's list to try and prove you are a contractor.
I resisted their demands for three weeks. They tried to push them on me and I said no which is why I quit.
Originally posted by uk contractor View PostGood for you & the right decision you come across as confident enough to believe in your own abilities so I am absolutely certain you will have something else more suitable very soon.
Thank you for your kind words. I don’t think I had another option as I laid out the situation to them in regards to IR35 and they still didn’t want to hear a thing saying “we don’t think it has anything to do with HRMC if we want to ensure your well-being and want you to participate in the team” so it was like talking to a brick wall. I couldn’t see the relationship getting better so I think I got out on time. Oh also when you google their name it tries to add the word scam after the name of the business ... oh wellLast edited by Chelseagirl; 19 January 2018, 21:39.
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Originally posted by Chelseagirl View PostI have quit.
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Originally posted by Chelseagirl View PostHahaha, on a more serious note I thought it was quite concerning he has never heard of the IR 35 test.
I explained to him what it meant in terms of how I do my work and manage my own time and he basically called me antisocial...I mean he’s the Vice President of a company, surely he should know what that is? I found his ignorance pathetic.
I'm more concerned you had to go through HMRC's list to try and prove you are a contractor.Last edited by northernladuk; 19 January 2018, 19:00.
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