Reply to: NPPV Level 3 - Police vetting.

[coolhandluke]

The time taken depends entirely on your background. I went through the process about 12 months ago with around 10 other contractors. Some got a response within 3 weeks others took 6 months, depending on your age historical police records for minor offences are very sporadic. All contractors started once basic clearance has been granted (around a week) you then sat waiting for a tap on the shoulder!

Only one contractor failed and he failed the basic upfront test. You aren't told why you fail but we believe the chap failed as they were unable to confirm his identity.

My advice is to be total upfront and honest. If you lie for any reason then it's an automatic fail.

[PermieToContractorAndBack]

Why would you need to declare you criminal past to the police? Do you not think they will get it from their own data?

Vetting isn't to find out about your conviction, it's for them to be sure that you are honest, reliable and aren't open to blackmail/coercion.
You have to build a degree of trust with your vetters.

I've just checked your NPPV level 3, OP. Make sure you answer very honestly, especially if it feels uncomfortable. On that level they already know everything about you.

[kysto]

Have a read of this

http://library.college.police.uk/doc...P-22.10.17.pdf

Good man, cheers Dave.

[malvolio]

I read it was the process.

It may be, but you can only answer the questions on the form. As I said, different agencies have different criteria.

Anyway the police know your criminal history, and that of your mates. So what are they testing for, do you suppose?

BTW my NPPV3 came through in a week and was accelerated by the client since I was filling a very necessary role on an interim basis. It takes as long as it takes.

[DaveB]

How does this fit in with NPPV level 3?

I've just been offered and accepted the role, which makes this more frustrating, as I think the process can take 6 weeks

Have a read of this

http://library.college.police.uk/doc...P-22.10.17.pdf

[kysto]

Why would you need to declare you criminal past to the police? Do you not think they will get it from their own data?

I read it was the process.

[northernladuk]

Yeah that's not my point, everything I've read around this says just declare everything be honest and what will be will be, however there is nowhere in the forums to declare anything :S

Why would you need to declare you criminal past to the police? Do you not think they will get it from their own data?

[kysto]

I've a funny feeling the police will already know......

Yeah that's not my point, everything I've read around this says just declare everything be honest and what will be will be, however there is nowhere in the forums to declare anything :S

[northernladuk]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with NVVP/BPSS etc. You mentioned BPSS includes basic disclosure, but is BPSS the same as NPPV?


I've actually just completed the vetting forms and at no point did it mention any criminal background for me, only for friends/associates etc?

I've a funny feeling the police will already know......

[kysto]

I thought I answered that... except the police probably use different processes and criteria, as I also said.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with NVVP/BPSS etc. You mentioned BPSS includes basic disclosure, but is BPSS the same as NPPV?


I've actually just completed the vetting forms and at no point did it mention any criminal background for me, only for friends/associates etc?

[malvolio]

How does this fit in with NPPV level 3?

I've just been offered and accepted the role, which makes this more frustrating, as I think the process can take 6 weeks

I thought I answered that... except the police probably use different processes and criteria, as I also said.

[kysto]

BPSS includes a Criminal Records Check which until January 17th this year is facilitated via Disclosure Scotland for UK citizens. Basic Disclosure is the service that covers this. They have others depending on the level of information needed.

https://www.mygov.scot/disclosure-types/

After January 17th you need to go to the Disclosure and Barring service unless you live in Scotland, when you will continue to use Disclosure Scotland.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...arring-service

The other bits of BPSS are:

• Immigration status and nationality (which covers right to work)
• Employment History
• Identity Verification.

All the gory details here :

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...y_Standard.pdf

How does this fit in with NPPV level 3?

I've just been offered and accepted the role, which makes this more frustrating, as I think the process can take 6 weeks

[DaveB]

Also, when you say equivalent to BPSS, i did some reading on this and my understanding is this is a package of different checks, including basic criminal disclosure - I'm from Scotland so not sure if this is the equivalent to a 'Basic Disclosure Scotland', if that is the case then I have had these in the past and they are clear as the conviction is spent.

BPSS includes a Criminal Records Check which until January 17th this year is facilitated via Disclosure Scotland for UK citizens. Basic Disclosure is the service that covers this. They have others depending on the level of information needed.

https://www.mygov.scot/disclosure-types/

After January 17th you need to go to the Disclosure and Barring service unless you live in Scotland, when you will continue to use Disclosure Scotland.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...arring-service

The other bits of BPSS are:

• Immigration status and nationality (which covers right to work)
• Employment History
• Identity Verification.

All the gory details here :

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...y_Standard.pdf

[malvolio]

Also, when you say equivalent to BPSS, i did some reading on this and my understanding is this is a package of different checks, including basic criminal disclosure - I'm from Scotland so not sure if this is the equivalent to a 'Basic Disclosure Scotland', if that is the case then I have had these in the past and they are clear as the conviction is spent.

No, BDS is too low level to mean much of anything.

In MOD speak there are four levels:

BC - You say who you are
BPSS - You are who you say you are
SC - We agree you are who you say you are
DV - We know who you really are.

It's pointless worrying about how they vet you. In essence it's a risk assessment specific to a particular role so will vary considerably in line with all sorts of factors. As has been said many times, fill in the form honestly and see what happens.

[kysto]

NPPV3 is one level down from SC, equivalent to BPSS, in effect the highest level for non-operational roles within the police. As long as you declare everything properly there shouldn't (note - shouldn't) be a problem, but as with all clearance issues it really depends what it is you are being cleared to do.

It's worth noting in passing that this clearance may not translate to Home Office or MOD equivalents in the future, since they are vetting for different criteria.

Also, when you say equivalent to BPSS, i did some reading on this and my understanding is this is a package of different checks, including basic criminal disclosure - I'm from Scotland so not sure if this is the equivalent to a 'Basic Disclosure Scotland', if that is the case then I have had these in the past and they are clear as the conviction is spent.