Learning on the job versus VAT

[cojak]

And on the basis that we’ve given the same answer in a variety of ways I’m closing this thread.

[washed up contractor]

Hi
Please advise if the learning on the job i.e. literature review, research, training should be classed as normal VAT chargeable services.

thanks.

While learning on the job happens, you want to bill and presumably charge the client VAT while you do this!?

Are you serious? Did you tell porkies at the interview and said you had the required skill and would hit the ground running? Sheeeesh!

[TheFaQQer]

Hi
Please advise if the learning on the job i.e. literature review, research, training should be classed as normal VAT chargeable services.

thanks.

I'm guessing here - you need to do some learning on the job for whatever reason. To learn, you need to buy books / materials / access to other websites etc. You want to know whether you can charge VAT on these expenses somehow.

Assuming you are VAT registered, then the answer is yes. You put down your time and expenses, then add VAT to that amount and invoice the client the gross amount. What they are for is irrelevant, you need to add VAT to what you are charging.

How you account for the expenses is between you and the client - if the client agrees to pay the expenses then that's great. If the client doesn't agree to pay the expenses, then you don't charge them - you certainly don't add a few extra hours that you didn't work to cover that.

[Cirrus]

abc111, your English is not very good so write longer sentences so people have a better chance of understanding what you are talking about.

[northernladyuk]

Hi
Please advise if the learning on the job i.e. literature review, research, training should be classed as normal VAT chargeable services.

thanks.

You need an accountant. Please.

[WTFH]

what if i want to claim the expenses by quoting them in terms of hours... e.g. expense =100; hourly rate =10; hours for expense =100/10 =10 hours!!

What is this “expense” that you are talking about?
If it something you have bought, then you will have a receipt for it, which you may be able to charge to your limited company (if you have your own limited company)
Do you have your own limited company?
If your client will not pick up expenses, are you trying to charge them your expenses by claiming you spent time working for the client?
If so, that’s fraud.
Although it’s hard to tell since you haven’t put any currency symbols against the numbers above so we can’t be sure what you are talking about.

[WTFH]

1. Please explain what your question has to do with VAT
2. Please tell us what you think VAT is, because it appears in every one of your threads and it looks like you don’t understand it.
3. Please tell us what answer you would like us to give to this thread

[cojak]

You should NOT claim for your own training if it is not mentioned in the contract.

You are a contractor - clients do NOT expect you to learn on their time.

[Lance]

Hi
Please advise if the learning on the job i.e. literature review, research, training should be classed as normal VAT chargeable services.

thanks.

Everything you charge for is VATable. Even expenses.

The only exceptions are if you are a utility provider (suspect not) or a retailer selling zero-rated items (still suspect not).

I don't understand your last question so not even attempting to answer it.

[abc111]

My question is what has VAT got to do with this.

If you are billing for your time you bill for that time + VAT (assuming you are VAT registered). If you are not billing for your time why exactly are you doing what you are doing?

what if i want to claim the expenses by quoting them in terms of hours... e.g. expense =100; hourly rate =10; hours for expense =100/10 =10 hours!!

[eek]

My question is what has VAT got to do with this.

If you are billing for your time you bill for that time + VAT (assuming you are VAT registered). If you are not billing for your time why exactly are you doing what you are doing?

[abc111]

That will depend on what your contract says.

If it says you can then you can. If it doesn’t mention it then you can’t.

if it does not mention?

[cojak]

That will depend on what your contract says.

If it says you can then you can. If it doesn’t mention it then you can’t.

[abc111]

Hi
Please advise if the learning on the job i.e. literature review, research, training should be classed as normal VAT chargeable services.

thanks.