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Previously on "What % will the agency/consultancy take off my daily rate"

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  • SussexSeagull
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    How much do you think you are worth a day and can realistically get? Ask for that figure.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Numero one rule in this game is are you happy with the rate? If yes, take it, if not, move on or negotiate. Don't fret about who's getting what further up the chain, you've no idea what work they are doing to inflate the rate for everyone's benefit.
    Got it in one.....otherwise distractive madness is your mistress.

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  • ruasonid
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Are you absolutely sure you are not part of the reason why the consultancy is no longer in the picture... Either way the consultancy going means that the end client is trying to reduce costs and there is no additional money to take....
    Yep. Companies are always looking for ways to pay less, not more.

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  • kaiser78
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees. Previously I had to go through both the agency and the consultancy. I believe they dumped the consultancy, so only the agency is left.

    Do you think that has a chance to go through?
    As per other comments. Why do you think you can command such a jump in rate ? I would say slim chance based on the info provided but give it a go and call the agents bluff, being prepared to walk if they politely turn you down.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees. Previously I had to go through both the agency and the consultancy. I believe they dumped the consultancy, so only the agency is left.

    Do you think that has a chance to go through?
    Are you absolutely sure you are not part of the reason why the consultancy is no longer in the picture... Either way the consultancy going means that the end client is trying to reduce costs and there is no additional money to take....

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees. Previously I had to go through both the agency and the consultancy. I believe they dumped the consultancy, so only the agency is left.

    Do you think that has a chance to go through?
    TBH you come across as a £150/day type of guy, perhaps work on your communication skills? You do seem a bit clueless, what is your skillset?

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  • greenlake
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees.
    Reminds me of this....

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  • ladymuck
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    I assume that the market supports the rate you're hoping to get? How did you calculate it? What can you offer the client at £800 p/day that a £600 p/day body can't? Does your increased experience specifically match what the client needs for this particular job? It's no good saying you've got 10 years experience in widgets when the client wants spangles.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees. Previously I had to go through both the agency and the consultancy. I believe they dumped the consultancy, so only the agency is left.

    Do you think that has a chance to go through?
    Not a hope in hell. You should have put that first and saved me some time.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by stek View Post
    Numero one rule in this game is are you happy with the rate? If yes, take it, if not, move on or negotiate. Don't fret about who's getting what further up the chain, you've no idea what work they are doing to inflate the rate for everyone's benefit.
    /\ This /\

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  • stek
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    Originally posted by skysies View Post
    What do you mean by that? Let's keep it simple. One of the middlemen is cut off, and I'm hoping to take his share so I can ask for the increase. And yeah, supposedly after some years I'll be bringing to the client more experience
    Numero one rule in this game is are you happy with the rate? If yes, take it, if not, move on or negotiate. Don't fret about who's getting what further up the chain, you've no idea what work they are doing to inflate the rate for everyone's benefit.

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  • skysies
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    You're starting from two wrong places. You get a percentage of the agency's fees, not the other way around. Secondly what you were charged at before has no relationship to your history and a lot to do with the client's budget. What do you bring to the party now that warrants you getting a 30%-plus rise in the client's costs?
    What do you mean by that? Let's keep it simple. One of the middlemen is cut off, and I'm hoping to take his share so I can ask for the increase. And yeah, supposedly after some years I'll be bringing to the client more experience

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  • malvolio
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    You're starting from two wrong places. You get a percentage of the agency's fees, not the other way around. Secondly what you were charged at before has no relationship to your history and a lot to do with the client's budget. What do you bring to the party now that warrants you getting a 30%-plus rise in the client's costs?

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  • skysies
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    Who knows. Agencies in to large firms tend to be on fixed rates of 6 ton10 percent or so. Agencies into smaller clients can be from 15 to God knows what.

    Also depends if you are being charged to the client just as a body or a consultant.

    You can try get a raise at renewal as well as they have made their money to cover the effort to find you.

    Try as hard as you can but I wouldn't be losing a decent gig over a few 10s of pounds.

    I worked for this client a couple of years ago. At that time I was at £600/day. Now I'm trying to get £800/day. So it's rather a big increase. I'm hoping that the end client agrees. Previously I had to go through both the agency and the consultancy. I believe they dumped the consultancy, so only the agency is left.

    Do you think that has a chance to go through?

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  • northernladuk
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    Who knows. Agencies in to large firms tend to be on fixed rates of 6 ton10 percent or so. Agencies into smaller clients can be from 15 to God knows what.

    Also depends if you are being charged to the client just as a body or a consultant.

    You can try get a raise at renewal as well as they have made their money to cover the effort to find you.

    Try as hard as you can but I wouldn't be losing a decent gig over a few 10s of pounds.

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