Reply to: State of the Market

[avonleigh]

LI stopped being a professional forum a long time ago now. It's pretty much the same as FB nowadays. So much so that's why people moan on it. I have an account but I never use it. Still get the odd recruiter message me now and then, so it still has some purpose.

[fatJock]

My bum has firmly been on the bench since June.

With that in mind on a human level I am really sympathetic as I am going through something similar myself but it is a professional forum and I am not sure bearing your soul in such a way is a great career move. I have personally hinted I have been out for a while but not gone into the impact on my personal life.

Granted some of them are from the US where there is less of a safety net and, for all I know, might be more the done thing.

Ah I should have been clearer - not a fan of the whole "life story" blur into LI but letting your network know you're looking is how I operate. I see arguments on there about folks thinking the whole open to work banner is excessive but I disagree, its kind of what it is .....

[jamesbrown]

Granted some of them are from the US where there is less of a safety net and, for all I know, might be more the done thing.

It isn't. By all means, whine on social media, but hard luck stories in a professional forum aren't going to help your prospects, quite the reverse.

[SussexSeagull]

Rates are all over the place at the moment. Most of what I have been in the running for is the same rate Inside (or perhaps a little higher but not much) as I would expect outside but I got approached for a contract yesterday that if (and that is a big if) I got would be my best paid ever.

[SussexSeagull]

As someone who's source of work is largely a well maintained LI network what else would you suggest they do? Words are cheap when it's not your bum on the bench.

My bum has firmly been on the bench since June.

With that in mind on a human level I am really sympathetic as I am going through something similar myself but it is a professional forum and I am not sure bearing your soul in such a way is a great career move. I have personally hinted I have been out for a while but not gone into the impact on my personal life.

Granted some of them are from the US where there is less of a safety net and, for all I know, might be more the done thing.

[sadkingbilly]

That's a yes then!

not quite, could be, maybe.

[oliverson]

be best if you and your whining tory chums would stop wingeing about how unfair the world is to them.

That's a yes then!

[eek]

See it a lot too, times are hard but a meltdown on Linkedin never seems like a good idea. Go nuts on facebook or instagram by all means, but keep your professional profile professional.

+1 - I'm seeing someone I know who is usually not short of work being arsey on linkedIn at the moment and it's only going to result in people not helping you out..

[Ketto]

As someone who's source of work is largely a well maintained LI network what else would you suggest they do? Words are cheap when it's not your bum on the bench.

See it a lot too, times are hard but a meltdown on Linkedin never seems like a good idea. Go nuts on facebook or instagram by all means, but keep your professional profile professional.

[Bluenose]

Have the rates reached a new low? Contracts that used to be £700 pd (outside) now advertised for £300 inside.

It's a polarised market. The 1,200 EUR a day roles just ain't been posted on the boards and the 850 EUR a day roles are appearing but you gotta dig. I am talking about real roles with a real recruiter at the other end not jobserve spam from an 18 year old fax machine boy with a landline.

What is being posted, like you say are the desperate find-someone-to-work-for-sweet-FA roles from recruiters who just spam everyone's mailbox, LI and phone numbers

[sadkingbilly]

Does every response you make have to be argumentative and combative?

You know, if you've nothing useful to say, probably best saying nothing.

be best if you and your whining tory chums would stop wingeing about how unfair the world is to them.

[oliverson]

and you can prove the link between the two, can you??
'course you can.
really, you can.

Does every response you make have to be argumentative and combative?

You know, if you've nothing useful to say, probably best saying nothing.

[Eirikur]

Have the rates reached a new low? Contracts that used to be £700 pd (outside) now advertised for £300 inside.

[fatJock]

The collective LinkedIn pre-Christmas meltdown of people looking for work has started. To a point I am sympathetic but I am not sure it does them any good actually finding a role.

As someone who's source of work is largely a well maintained LI network what else would you suggest they do? Words are cheap when it's not your bum on the bench.

[sadkingbilly]

The knock on effects from the Budget (higher bond interest rates) seemed to have slowed the IT job market again, at least compared to September and October when there was a moderate bounce in the market on the back of the first interest rate cut by the BOE in August.

2 year gilts were 3.5% in August now 4.4%

and you can prove the link between the two, can you??
'course you can.
really, you can.