Reply to: State of the Market

[tjccjt01]

I don't know what I am missing but I find it it impossible to get LinkedIn to return meaningful job search results.

LinkedIn job search is hot garbage. It ignores keywords in searches and makes up skills that aren't in your CV when generating results.

[SussexSeagull]

I'm looking at what I believe to be our "sister" site: ContractorUK on Reddit.
There is a thread on there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContractorU...o/daily_rates/
where contractors are saying what rate they are on.
The values are high, with an average of around £650/day.
Are these real? I'm surprised rates are so high at the moment with the market being so quiet.
Do we think some of these numbers are exaggerated?

Would be surprised if the sort of people who earn four figures a day would boast about it on Reddit.

[GJABS]

I'm looking at what I believe to be our "sister" site: ContractorUK on Reddit.
There is a thread on there:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ContractorU...o/daily_rates/
where contractors are saying what rate they are on.
The values are high, with an average of around £650/day.
Are these real? I'm surprised rates are so high at the moment with the market being so quiet.
Do we think some of these numbers are exaggerated?

[Cookielove]

Latest is a recruiter asking for xmas ideas for a 1 year old....really!?! it is only gonna get worse with this rubbish and the begging posts as December looms

[rocktronAMP]

I don't know what I am missing but I find it it impossible to get LinkedIn to return meaningful job search results.

I have got it set up the other way, to send notifications out to me. I set up just two tags in the job profille

technical lead
solution architect

Originally, I had too much tags in my job profile. e.g.

full stack tech lead
java engineering manager
java javaee j2ee tech lead
...

It was just a nightmare of notifications. It is not easy as I said to actively to search for jobs, because of the bolt-on UX/UI. Basically, you are fighting the wood grain of the algorithm.

[Cookielove]

I'm longing to do the same. Been on the platform since 2004 but these days I shudder at the crap I read. And these hard luck stories are pathetic. Bound to do more damage than good. I'm really relishing the day I can delete my profile completely. That day is coming soon I feel.

Same for me the day is looming that I delete it entirely...only useful thing is if you get an interview you can look the person up...so much dross now to scroll through...

[rocktronAMP]

That's because Two Tier Starmer and Rachel From Accounts ****ed up any chance of recovery with their destructive budget and policies. Mark my words, there will be NO recovery while these clowns are in charge.

If only Liz Struss had gone to branding experts and stress tested that budget. It.Was.Not.A.Mini.Budget.
In the alternate reality, which you and I dream of, she could have repeal IR35 with a bottom of the cigarette packet disclaimer item. Just like in the same way Off Payroll Worker Rules were voted in. Sigh. It was nearly there. If she had been a project planner. Milestone M1 then M2 and then M3 might have worked (and before anyone cchimes in. I am not a Tory BTW)

[TheDude]

I don't know what I am missing but I find it it impossible to get LinkedIn to return meaningful job search results.

[oliverson]

Yes, because the 14 years before that were an unbridled success.

Agree, they were an unmitigated disaster, which is why I didn't vote for the fake tories (or Labour).

[SussexSeagull]

That's because Two Tier Starmer and Rachel From Accounts ****ed up any chance of recovery with their destructive budget and policies. Mark my words, there will be NO recovery while these clowns are in charge.

Yes, because the 14 years before that were an unbridled success.

[oliverson]

...
After both UK budget and US election, I am still looking for the signs of green shoots recovery. They are lacking.
...

That's because Two Tier Starmer and Rachel From Accounts ****ed up any chance of recovery with their destructive budget and policies. Mark my words, there will be NO recovery while these clowns are in charge.

[oliverson]

I deleted LI earlier this year and never looked back. Never got anything from it. Its worse than FB because it pretends its a professional platform, and well at least FB has some decent second hand advertisements. Not even mentioning all the corp cringe slop and bulltulip its always putting in your feed.

I'm longing to do the same. Been on the platform since 2004 but these days I shudder at the crap I read. And these hard luck stories are pathetic. Bound to do more damage than good. I'm really relishing the day I can delete my profile completely. That day is coming soon I feel.

[zonkkk]

Hope things work out for you. Linkedin’s best utility for me is giving you a quick and easy way to announce to all agents, former clients, colleagues, suppliers and associates that you’re available. Being able to post a positive sounding message detailing what your looking for and what you have been working on recently to a network of 500-1000 is incredibly useful. I don’t green banner personally but don’t think it hurts if you do, i find it is the attitude alongside the green banner which causes some people issues. I nearly always get 3-4 messages with offers or strong potential leads when i post that I’m available soon. Building up wide awareness of your availability via job board applications and othernon-LI means takes much longer.

The downside the last couple of times is that the leads tend to be from clients so bad i have no intention of ever working with them again, but it has been reassuring that there are options if absolutely necessary!

I take the same approach, and it always seem to work. Open to Work was set on for about 2 weeks before my last contract ended with a message saying what I am looking for. Started new contract a week after my previous one finished.

[Ketto]

Still looking with no joy…the job at £400 day/£70k never materialised agent said they took someone lees experienced on £300 per day inside.

I’m find LI beyond tedious and not helpful so many ads and pointless stuff and more desperation posts by the day …lot of single parent sob stories and begging for work/am losing my home type stuff .

I haven’t verified as they want your passport details also not got premium either am not convinced it would be any better as it seems like it’s had its day!

I scroll through a lot of nonsense but I find v slim pickings …not interested to see a team nosh up at the Ned or whatever or self congratulatory stuff like popping a sprog/getting a promotion why is that on LI??

I am despairing of getting a role now this year …jobs I could do with my eyes shut not even an interview ..applicant numbers seem high so it’s v tricky ! Personally I’ve never known it this bad or maybe my memory isn’t what it was 🤔

Hope things work out for you. Linkedin’s best utility for me is giving you a quick and easy way to announce to all agents, former clients, colleagues, suppliers and associates that you’re available. Being able to post a positive sounding message detailing what your looking for and what you have been working on recently to a network of 500-1000 is incredibly useful. I don’t green banner personally but don’t think it hurts if you do, i find it is the attitude alongside the green banner which causes some people issues. I nearly always get 3-4 messages with offers or strong potential leads when i post that I’m available soon. Building up wide awareness of your availability via job board applications and othernon-LI means takes much longer.

The downside the last couple of times is that the leads tend to be from clients so bad i have no intention of ever working with them again, but it has been reassuring that there are options if absolutely necessary!

[Ketto]

You might find it useful to gather recommendations. Is the recommendations feature useful to you finding roles? I very much doubt. It's the one area I never bother to read.

Inclined to agree.

It’s one of those things my brain tells me must be helpful, but i’ve never had a shred of direct or indirect evidence that is has actually helped me. No recruiter or client has ever said “I saw your recommendation from X and….”. Recommendations have never once been mentioned during a contract search.