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Originally posted by hungry_hog View PostHad a chat to someone today who has done 14 years at same client! Half in and half out.
May as well carve your GPS coordinates on the Revenue head office windows!
Lots of people returning to old clients (direct, not using agents) having tasted the waters outside and found them to be cold, murky and full of sharks!
I know a few people who went perm to "outside" at the same client, worked like this for years, then closes their ltds and had zero problems. You'd think they would get spotted straight away, especially when closing their ltd as that's the moment to do an overview, but perhaps that's also automated and not one person gives a tulip?
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Had a chat to someone today who has done 14 years at same client! Half in and half out.
May as well carve your GPS coordinates on the Revenue head office windows!
Lots of people returning to old clients (direct, not using agents) having tasted the waters outside and found them to be cold, murky and full of sharks!Last edited by hungry_hog; Yesterday, 17:51.
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Originally posted by quackhandle View PostOnce companies work out how much they are being ripped off for Cloud hosting/compared to the performance they are getting they'll be all going back to on premise in next 1/2 years so lots of work there.
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ETA
Of course a lot of enterprise systems like Workday aren't available as on-premise apps.
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Originally posted by Hairlocks View Post
You clearly haven't experienced how much money companies can waste with on-premise kit to change their mind a year later.
Although I do agree on paper on-premise should be cheaper than cloud. Like a permanent employee should be cheaper than a contractor.
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My post was 11% sarcasm, 80% tongue-in-cheek and 9% butterscotch ripple.
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Originally posted by quackhandle View PostOnce companies work out how much they are being ripped off for Cloud hosting/compared to the performance they are getting they'll be all going back to on premise in next 1/2 years so lots of work there.
qh
Although I do agree on paper on-premise should be cheaper than cloud. Like a permanent employee should be cheaper than a contractor.
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Originally posted by quackhandle View PostOnce companies work out how much they are being ripped off for Cloud hosting/compared to the performance they are getting they'll be all going back to on premise in next 1/2 years so lots of work there.
qh
A lot of people also said the same about the quality of offshoring companies and it would all come back onshore... which it hasn't.
Fingers crossed on both... BIDI
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Once companies work out how much they are being ripped off for Cloud hosting/compared to the performance they are getting they'll be all going back to on premise in next 1/2 years so lots of work there.
qh
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Originally posted by tsmith View Post
Im seeing 90% of roles with 'state salary requirements' - 10 years ago it was maybe 10%. Times have changed. How long before its 35k for a senior XYZ role in London?
I try and put 'market rates' if theres no integer only check
Woman actually called me about a role I applied for with this approach - 'you put market rates - the role is paying £55k 6 months FTC'
I said can you do £60k? - She said no
I also had a initial job interview and I asked about salary range, got asked the same tulipe "well how much are you thinking" and it turned out I was only 5k off, but even that sounded like "well maybe it's doable, but I'm not sure". If 5k leeway is too much to swallow I bloody give up.
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
Oddly my rate has been quite good over the last year and I would have had a quick turnaround between two contracts had sign off and Christmas not got in the way. In both instances the agent came to me though.
I will probably be out for six months next time out but maybe we are beginning to see the contractor field thin out in some sectors?
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This years April bounce doest seem to have been as strong or long as last years.
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Originally posted by sreed View Post
Care to share the listing? That has to be a mistake, I can’t recall ever having seen any inside contract that pays £120 a day!
Working backwards from net pay, that translates into a PAYE salary of around 21k or so which (even for a 35 hour week) is just above min wage!
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Originally posted by hungry_hog View PostThe rates are actually good, even though market is slow, which I know seems anomalous.
I'm at an FS client and there are plenty of people on 1000+ Umbrella rate (not me I hasten to add). The posh coffee shops (coffee 4 to 15 quid!) are doing a roaring trade.
it depends hugely on previous experience specific to that client, if you have it they pay top dollar. Worth more than 20 years at the fabled "top tier" IBs
I will probably be out for six months next time out but maybe we are beginning to see the contractor field thin out in some sectors?
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Originally posted by tsmith View PostI applied to 100 jobs using a resume with the name, "Kismma D. Nhuhts" and I got 29 interviews.
https://twitter.com/JerryJHLee/statu...84920593055763
Takeaway - As long as you have big name companies on your CV nobody reads the rest - that or interviews are much easier to come by in San Francisco
Maybe Ill try and apply for a few stateside to test
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