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Previously on "State of the Market"

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by Bluenose View Post

    700 inside ir35 is what the Indian outsourcers are currently offering to those wanting to work at a bank in central london.

    Its just over 500 a day outside equivalent, thats not been 'very good' money since about 2006.
    It's probably more than what a bog standard Java Dev is worth though.

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  • Bluenose
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    Originally posted by GJABS View Post

    £700 per day is a very good rate though isn't it?
    700 inside ir35 is what the Indian outsourcers are currently offering to those wanting to work at a bank in central london.

    Its just over 500 a day outside equivalent, thats not been 'very good' money since about 2006.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    Most of the UK would would love to be on £700 a day.

    Those that earn more keep quiet about it if they have any class.
    Which would be Consulting Architect has mentioned it twice tonight alone. Must be one of those uber fantastic guys like FraidyCat

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by ConsultingTechArchitect View Post

    Not when you can get the same outside ir35
    Which only a small percentage of people can do so GJABs is right, it is.

    Not many people are as good as you are and can swing their dicks on forums.

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  • ConsultingTechArchitect
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    Originally posted by GJABS View Post

    £700 per day is a very good rate though isn't it?
    Not when you can get the same outside ir35

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  • TheDude
    replied
    Originally posted by GJABS View Post

    £700 per day is a very good rate though isn't it?
    Most of the UK would would love to be on £700 a day.

    Those that earn more keep quiet about it if they have any class.

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  • GJABS
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    Originally posted by Bluenose View Post

    they can't fill the roles, only so many people will work at *insert crap London based workplace* et al. for 700pd inside ir35 and those that take these roles will try and get out in short order.
    £700 per day is a very good rate though isn't it?

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Finished up at a place and loathe to put my CV online as the calls from the "jabappatunity" types are getting me down as it is. Soon, though.
    But what if these opportunities are with 'prestigious clients'?

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  • PerfectStorm
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    Finished up at a place and loathe to put my CV online as the calls from the "jabappatunity" types are getting me down as it is. Soon, though.

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  • PCTNN
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    Not many contracts at the moment for my line of work (UX and UI Design) although the few roles I've been contacted for are fairly well paid.

    One contract in particular has the highest rate I've ever been put forward at (almost £200 a day higher than my highest rate so far). The recruiter clearly said "the client is looking for someone because the resource they have is underperforming and they want to get rid of them". OK, no pressure there

    Lots more roles for User Researchers and Service Designers...these seem to be the hot trends now.

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  • ladymuck
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post

    I have been quoting high rates and they follow up but it goes nowhere.

    I suspect they want a few high rates to justify the chancers they are putting forwards on £500pd
    Maybe for a laugh say you'll do it for £450 and see where you get to.

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  • TheDude
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    Originally posted by Bluenose View Post

    they can't fill the roles, only so many people will work at *insert crap London based workplace* et al. for 700pd inside ir35 and those that take these roles will try and get out in short order.

    maket is really moving at the minute, something will need to give in the London market eventually, might take a while but they can't get getting and retaining the best candidates.

    I have been quoting high rates and they follow up but it goes nowhere.

    I suspect they want a few high rates to justify the chancers they are putting forwards on £500pd

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  • Bluenose
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post
    I have noticed that I am being approached a lot more for contract roles at the likes of Infosys, Tata, Crap Gemini etc etc.

    An inevitable effect of IR35?
    they can't fill the roles, only so many people will work at *insert crap London based workplace* et al. for 700pd inside ir35 and those that take these roles will try and get out in short order.

    maket is really moving at the minute, something will need to give in the London market eventually, might take a while but they can't get getting and retaining the best candidates.


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  • rocktronAMP
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    Originally posted by TheDude View Post
    I have noticed that I am being approached a lot more for contract roles at the likes of Infosys, Tata, Crap Gemini etc etc.

    An inevitable effect of IR35?
    Possibly, because we are in the middle of tight labour markets. Great skills and cheap salaries / low contractor rates are hard to find. The above companies are chancing their arms and promising to resource for future tender. And Dudie you are 100% right not to play ball, if you can help it!

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  • TheDude
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    I have noticed that I am being approached a lot more for contract roles at the likes of Infosys, Tata, Crap Gemini etc etc.

    An inevitable effect of IR35?

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