Reply to: State of the Market

[avonleigh]

Sorry to hear it.

That brings up an interesting point. At the risk of setting off the tinfoil hat enthusiasts.

What do you mean by "no-hire list"? Is this kept by the client, the agency or is it shared more broadly?
It sounds from your description like the ClientCo is keeping a naughty list.

I would expect an individual agent to remember past insults, perhaps a vetting company, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of anyone in our industry doing this.

Years ago I was told by an agent there was a blacklist which was shared with all agencies. It's a load of nonsense and purely one of the devious tactics they use to get you to tow their line. I also don't believe clients have blacklists either. Have known people go back to clients when they have left under a cloud. All depends if anyone involved in the hiring process is still around or holds grudges. But even in the permie world people move around regularly so often it wouldn't even be an issue anyway.

[Dorkeaux]

Sorry to hear it.

That brings up an interesting point. At the risk of setting off the tinfoil hat enthusiasts.

What do you mean by "no-hire list"? Is this kept by the client, the agency or is it shared more broadly?
It sounds from your description like the ClientCo is keeping a naughty list.

I would expect an individual agent to remember past insults, perhaps a vetting company, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of anyone in our industry doing this.

[Kprad35]

Hiring manager has learned that I am on the no-hire list due to a past incident in 2022 in which I was unable to join after accepting an offer because of COVID-related issues at my household, as the role required daily office attendance. The recruiter has passed my explanation on to the current hiring manager I am interviewing with. I am not sure what my chances are.All rounds of interviews have been completed.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Agent gone silent as usual 😄

[willendure]

The contract rate for this job in the USD 454,545 per day as in https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuc...t-300-million/

Crazy. US rates are high, I would quite like to work for a US tech company, as rates for perm roles are probably at least on par with what we might get in the UK outside IR35, and after-tax I am talking about. Had an interview for one during the summer, but I blew it. Would be a good market to get a foot in the door with though.

[willendure]

not all rates.

Billy is raking it in!

[avonleigh]

There are a few contracts but rates are dire.

Not seeing any change in rates tbh. Seem normal to me. But yes there are very few contracts around and add to that an incredible amount of people on the bench, so competition is mental. Don't go on LinkedIn much nowadays but did the other day and I couldn't believe how many people are 'open to work'.

[sadkingbilly]

There are a few contracts but rates are dire.

not all rates.

[TheDude]

After taking a below market rate in the summer as the role had “years of work”. Had the nod today that im
not being renewed due to reducing head count…

Merry Christmas.

I assume the market is dire as usual?

There are a few contracts but rates are dire.

[TheLordDave]

After taking a below market rate in the summer as the role had “years of work”. Had the nod today that im
not being renewed due to reducing head count…

Merry Christmas.

I assume the market is dire as usual?

[Dorkeaux]

Speaking to agent later about an outside gig...... wish me luck peeps. If this happens I can wave bye bye to appraisals again.

Bonne chance, geezer.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

whats the peoplesoft contract market like these days? In general?

I moved on to Peoplesoft 2.0 - Workday, but Peoplesoft gigs still exist apparently

[Bluenose]

Speaking to agent later about an outside gig...... wish me luck peeps. If this happens I can wave bye bye to appraisals again.

whats the peoplesoft contract market like these days? In general?

[sadkingbilly]

Speaking to agent later about an outside gig...... wish me luck peeps. If this happens I can wave bye bye to appraisals again.

luck peeps

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Speaking to agent later about an outside gig...... wish me luck peeps. If this happens I can wave bye bye to appraisals again.