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Previously on "Put fwd at £x, now at face-to-face stage, want £x+50"
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It's just not realistic to quote a binding price before the interview. We've all been to interviews where the details don't match what was in the "spec" the agency provided (whosever fault that was). Quoting a range before the interview and doing the rate negotiation immediately after the client says yes has always worked well for me.
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The agent will pull you if you start ******* them around, especially if he's got an exclusive arrangement. He'll just tell client co that you've withdrawn your interest.
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Originally posted by Boo View PostBecause the agent gives 3 flying tulipes about your "business case" and will cave immediately...
BooOriginally posted by SlipTheJab View PostEh?
Boo is saying the agent won't give 2 tulips about whatever business case the OP might make to get an extra £50 a day.
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Originally posted by Boo View PostBecause the agent gives 3 flying tulipes about your "business case" and will cave immediately...
Boo
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Originally posted by BlasterBates View PostIf you've offered x, and you want x+50 or 100 that's equivalent to pulling out.
Or, it's the equivalent of being greedy and deciding that if they want you they'll pay more than you said you'd accept. i.e. gazumping.
"Oh so you'll pay £25,000 for my car? In that case it's £30,000"
No. if that's your attitude, you'll not get many gigs.
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Originally posted by fidot View PostA valid reason to negotiate might be that the interview exposed that the client required more than the job spec mentioned. I think you have a better chance of negotiating based on what the client has mentioned during the interview rather than the "market rate" argument.Last edited by gables; 29 January 2016, 13:17.
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If you've offered x, and you want x+50 or 100 that's equivalent to pulling out. As others have said if you do that they'll prefer any candidate that is on or below that rate.
I would put yourself forward for the other roles and if the market is bouyant, you'll have an offer or at least have been for interviews by the end of next week.
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If you're happy to be put forward at £x, man up and accept that £x is what you'll be getting for that contract.
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Originally posted by silverlight1 View PostFor £50 a day extra I wouldn't really make a fuss but if you do want to then I suggest you develop a business case:
- My expertise in project x saved y days and ensured it was delivered early / on time
- I fixed this system and saved you ££
- I developed report A in 3 days but the offshore Bob's took 3 weeks to deliver similar report
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For £50 a day extra I wouldn't really make a fuss but if you do want to then I suggest you develop a business case:
- My expertise in project x saved y days and ensured it was delivered early / on time
- I fixed this system and saved you ££
- I developed report A in 3 days but the offshore Bob's took 3 weeks to deliver similar report
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Turn your nose up at this rate, each week you spend looking for a new £50 higher one will cost you 50 days to make up to the rate you want - don't sell out man
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostYour culinary equipment is overpriced!
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostAlso who says what market rate is nowadays? I see gigs advertised from 275 to 600 for my skillet and location doesn't seem to make much difference. I've taken a gig at nearly 75 quid a day less than the previous one because it was where I wanted and good experience. Turned out to be one of the nicest gigs I've been on and well worth the rate drop. Not everything is about the money.
My rate has went up and down like Andyw's mum's knickers but I try to fit with what the client can afford. If it's a small place or public sector I am more sympathetic as long as the agent isn't at it. I actually enjoy going and making the client's IT systems better as long as I get above a minimum Im happy.
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