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Previously on "Request for help from documentary filmmaker: self-employment"

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    An axe or chainsaw might be a good starting point
    A bit subtle possibly

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  • Scruff
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    It seems as though the OP has disappeared midst the clattering of Gladiator Swords, and the turning of all the Radiator Keys?

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  • TykeMerc
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    An axe or chainsaw might be a good starting point
    I'd start with an electron microscope, there are times when it's clear they're totally mindless.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    Yep I agree - wonder if we could open HMRC's mind?? Oh no sorry forget that I don't know what came over me
    An axe or chainsaw might be a good starting point

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
    True Lisa.

    Maybe it would also make the piece different from all the usual journalistic work which either identifies the plight of the downtrodden zero hours people (which is pretty dire) or the tax exploitation of contractors using weird schemes.

    Some compare and contrast between those on exploitation "self employment" and professional contractors might even open a few eyes and god forbid a few minds.
    Yep I agree - wonder if we could open HMRC's mind?? Oh no sorry forget that I don't know what came over me

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  • TykeMerc
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    True Lisa.

    Maybe it would also make the piece different from all the usual journalistic work which either identifies the plight of the downtrodden zero hours people (which is pretty dire) or the tax exploitation of contractors using weird schemes.

    Some compare and contrast between those on exploitation "self employment" and professional contractors might even open a few eyes and god forbid a few minds.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    I think this is an indication of a common problem - people don't seem to get that there is a massive difference between temps/self-employed and contractors. We have been criticised as an industry (umbrella companies that is) of 'exploiting low paid workers' but our employees earn an average of £350.00 per day and work maybe 40 weeks per year through choice

    To the OP - perhaps this is something that you could add into your piece to raise awareness?? Legislation has been introduced over the years that's intended to protect low paid workers but actually often impacts negatively on professional contractors who enjoy the freedoms that their work choices offer and don't want the restraints of employment.

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  • SteelyDan
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    Originally posted by HannahL View Post
    I’m a wannabe journalist working on a TV documentary about the changing use of the English language in the UK.

    I'd hope initially to have a confidential conservation with you...
    Green party?

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Isn't this a question of semantics for the purposes of this lady's film?

    We're all pretty much self employed when it comes down to it.
    No, we're not. Aside from the differences between operating as a sole trader versus a Ltd company (which you can argue are semantic for the purposes of this discussion), there are fundamental differences between the workforce from which the OP is seeking input (low paid, zero-hours contracts, told what to do, forced into "self-employment") versus the average punter around here (very highly paid, contractual flexibility, no direction and control from the client, made the choice to work as a contractor). Semantics aside, we're talking about two fundamentally different groups of people.

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  • PerfectStorm
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    Isn't this a question of semantics for the purposes of this lady's film?

    We're all pretty much self employed when it comes down to it.

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    Is that a breakaway faction of the PCG?
    Splitters!

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  • sal
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    The vast, vast majority of people here aren't self-employed - they operate either via an umbrella company as a PAYE employee, or they run their own limited company. There will be some people here who are self-employed, but I wouldn't put that number at more than a handful.

    As far as those who operate via agencies, the CUK audience tend not to look for "irregular work" or worry about their pay and conditions (apart from a few I can think of). The agencies used by contractors here are usually an intermediary used by the client to find a highly skilled resource that the client does not have (or want) in-house.

    You might be better off asking the Association of Independent Professionals and the Self-Employed (Home | IPSE) for pointers - they represent the 4.5 million self-employed workers in the UK, so should be able to help you out.

    Good luck - let us know when it's on TV
    WHS, plus

    Originally posted by HannahL View Post
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    I’m particularly interested in talking to people who feel that they had little option but to become self-employed, people who were recently unemployed, and people concerned about their pay and conditions as a self-employed worker.
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    Most (if not all) of the contractors frequenting this forum are working in this manner as a preferred, not last option. So yeah, totally wrong place to ask for guinea pigs.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    You might be better off asking the Association of Independent Professionals and the Self-Employed (Home | IPSE) for pointers - they claim to represent the 4.5 million self-employed workers in the UK, so should be able to help you out.
    ftfy. You can't represent 4.5m people just by claiming that you represent them. (and given what I heard last night I really don't think they are doing a good job).. However they may have successfully tricked a few suitable people for this programme into joining..
    Last edited by eek; 15 October 2014, 14:21.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    You might be better off asking the Association of Independent Professionals and the Self-Employed (Home | IPSE) for pointers - they represent the 4.5 million self-employed workers in the UK, so should be able to help you out.

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  • DiscoStu
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    The vast, vast majority of people here aren't self-employed - they operate either via an umbrella company as a PAYE employee, or they run their own limited company. There will be some people here who are self-employed, but I wouldn't put that number at more than a handful.

    As far as those who operate via agencies, the CUK audience tend not to look for "irregular work" or worry about their pay and conditions (apart from a few I can think of). The agencies used by contractors here are usually an intermediary used by the client to find a highly skilled resource that the client does not have (or want) in-house.

    You might be better off asking the Association of Independent Professionals and the Self-Employed (Home | IPSE) for pointers - they represent the 4.5 million self-employed workers in the UK, so should be able to help you out.

    Good luck - let us know when it's on TV

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