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Previously on "Managing Complex Chnage"

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  • Cirrus
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    Talk Dirty to Me

    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
    Taking back control of our hardware
    OMG... I think I'm falling in love

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Imagine a project where you replace a modern cloud solution with a 1960's IBM mainframe and you have to sit in meetings to agree what you functions you throw out.
    Taking back control of our hardware

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    The vision was to leave the EU

    The skills are those of the politicans, on both sides, that have provided us with the Brexit deal that is currently before parliament.

    You are massively over thinking this
    Well, that's more than you and the other brexiters are here are doing

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    Ok maybe I made a poor choice of words.

    The vision was A Britain free from the oppressive shackles of the EU.
    There aren't any oppressive shackles.
    The EU oppressive trading restrictions that restrict Britain from forming its own trading relations with its colonies.
    Nope - none of them either.

    Seems like the "vision" was inspired by a combination of LSD (for the total unreality) and cannabis (for the paranoia).

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  • Cirrus
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    My undergarments are getting damp

    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Imagine a project where you replace a modern cloud solution with a 1960's IBM mainframe
    Ah... the Good Old Days

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  • BlasterBates
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    To implement Brexit properly you have to destroy the economy first and rebuild a new one. The new rebuilt economy will be sh*ttier than the old destroyed one.

    This is the problem.

    Imagine a project where you replace a modern cloud solution with a 1960's IBM mainframe and you have to sit in meetings to agree what you functions you throw out.

    That is basically where we're at.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    Ok maybe I made a poor choice of words.
    No surprise there from CUK's leading cretin.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    The Managing Complex Change Model model created by Dr Mary Lippitt (1987) I think shows quite well what is currently wrong with the Brexit process.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change
    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion
    Vision + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Anxiety
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Action Plan = Frustration
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    We were here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    for a long time but now that Parliament in trying to wrestle control from the government we are now here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts - lacking incentive

    No deal problem relates to this

    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion

    as there is a lack of vision as to what no deal really looks like

    Question is how do we get to the top.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change

    Simple Parliament need to stop acting like school children as do as HM has said.
    An "Action Plan" is not to stop doing something, but to start doing something. An Incentive is a tangible positive benefit from doing something (again, it's not about stopping, but about starting)

    How "we" get to the top is to revisit the Vision. What exactly is it?
    The Skills. Who is capable of delivering it and what knowledge do they need?
    The Incentives. Why should people want to be involved?
    The Resources. Who is going to do the design, who is going to do the delivery, who is going to test, who is going to take responsibility, what other resources are required, etc?
    The Action Plan. What is the detailed plan of action to deliver the Vision?

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    The vision was to leave the EU

    The skills are those of the politicans, on both sides, that have provided us with the Brexit deal that is currently before parliament.

    You are massively over thinking this
    I would contend that you are massively over-simplifying it. Brexiters don't do details, which is why we are in this mess.

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  • Yorkie62
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    That was a goal, not a vision

    HTH
    Ok maybe I made a poor choice of words.

    The vision was A Britain free from the oppressive shackles of the EU. The EU oppressive trading restrictions that restrict Britain from forming its own trading relations with its colonies.

    <<having pushed the Big Red Brexit button Yorkie now sits back and waits for all the remaining fish to bite>>

    Nothing like a bit of sport winding up a remainer on a Friday morning. They should make this an Olympic sport!

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  • NotAllThere
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    Private Eye reported that McKinsey were brought in. They came up with some of the theories that have been suggested here and there - like falling back on WTO terms. Unfortunately, while very highly paid, they knew SFA about international trade, and many of their suggestions are entirely impractical.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    The vision was to leave the EU
    That was a goal, not a vision

    HTH

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  • Yorkie62
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Tell us about how that Vision matches what was proposed by the Leave campaign pre-Referendum, and how the Skills of the Brexit-supporting politicians has managed to put that Vision into a detailed written plan.
    The vision was to leave the EU

    The skills are those of the politicans, on both sides, that have provided us with the Brexit deal that is currently before parliament.

    You are massively over thinking this

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
    The Managing Complex Change Model model created by Dr Mary Lippitt (1987) I think shows quite well what is currently wrong with the Brexit process.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change
    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion
    Vision + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Anxiety
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Action Plan = Frustration
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    We were here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    for a long time but now that Parliament in trying to wrestle control from the government we are now here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts - lacking incentive

    No deal problem relates to this

    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion

    as there is a lack of vision as to what no deal really looks like

    Question is how do we get to the top.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change

    Simple Parliament need to stop acting like school children as do as HM has said.
    Tell us about how that Vision matches what was proposed by the Leave campaign pre-Referendum, and how the Skills of the Brexit-supporting politicians has managed to put that Vision into a detailed written plan.

    Leave a comment:


  • Yorkie62
    started a topic Managing Complex Chnage

    Managing Complex Chnage

    The Managing Complex Change Model model created by Dr Mary Lippitt (1987) I think shows quite well what is currently wrong with the Brexit process.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change
    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion
    Vision + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Anxiety
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Action Plan = Frustration
    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    We were here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts

    for a long time but now that Parliament in trying to wrestle control from the government we are now here

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources = False Starts - lacking incentive

    No deal problem relates to this

    Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Confusion

    as there is a lack of vision as to what no deal really looks like

    Question is how do we get to the top.

    Vision + Skills + Incentives + Resources + Action Plan = Change

    Simple Parliament need to stop acting like school children as do as HM has said.

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