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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    At least he is honest about his lying though...
    No. He lies about that as well.

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  • Old Greg
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    There is vintage stuff on Johnson lies about EU regulations here.

    Boris Johnson Accused Of "Exaggerating" EU Rules To Make Case For Brexit

    Boris Johnson has been condemned by MPs for his "exaggerated or misinterpreted" warnings about the extent of EU laws.

    The London mayor, who is campaigning for Britain to leave the EU, was taken to task over his claims that people in the EU are banned from recycling teabags and children under 8 aren't allowed to blow up balloons.

    He made those accusations in his column for the Daily Telegraph in February.

    Johnson was up in front of the Treasury select committee on Tuesday to give evidence on the costs of Britain's EU membership. Chair Andrew Tyrie, a Tory MP, asked him to explain his balloons remark.

    Johnson said: "The European Commission's own website says that adult supervision is required in the use of uninflated balloons by children under 8. ... I do think it is absolutely ludicrous to have this kind of proscription at a European level, I think it’s absolutely bonkers."

    But Tyrie cast doubt on his claims. "What it actually says, Boris, because I've got the toy safety directive here, it's asking that this warning be placed on the packaging," he said. "It's not requiring or forbidding."

    Johnson added that councils had "gold-plated" EU rules to effectively prevent people in the UK from recycling teabags.

    Tyrie replied: “It’s not true, though, to say there is an EU regulation or directive that prohibits people from recycling teabags. It's a misrepresentation to say people are being prevented from recycling teabags."

    He asked Johnson about further claims – made in Johnson's book Lend Me Your Ears – about EU legislation dictating the weight and dimensions of coffins across Europe.

    Johnson defended this, saying it was true there were "Euro coffin" regulations – although, he joked, the dimensions had probably changed because everyone was getting fatter.

    But Tyrie said it was simply a Council of Europe convention on the transfer of corpses with "no reference to dimensions", no EU legislation, and to which the UK wasn't a signatory. "So the story is a figment of your imagination," he said.

    As Johnson squirmed, Tyrie added: "I've been through quite a list there, either of things which require quite a bit of qualification to understand, or where I think a reasonable person would say you've either exaggerated or misinterpreted the extent to which the words..."

    Later as Johnson made yet another joke during the hearing, Tyrie accused him of taking a "very partial, busking, humour-esque approach to a very serious question for the UK."

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    Johnson was repeatedly called to order by Tyrie throughout the two hour, 45 minute session, after talking over MPs and failing to answer specific questions.

    During a fractious exchange with Labour MP Wes Streeting, Tyrie told Johnson: "Order! I'm not going to instruct you to stop interrupting the questioner again.

    "Boris, let Wes ask his question and then try and address your answer to the question and not perhaps what you would have wanted the question to be."

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  • original PM
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    At least he is honest about his lying though...
    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    To an extent, yes, but Johnson's mendacity is way beyond that of most politicians. He doesn't even pretend to speak truthfully.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    To an extent true, but Johnson's mendacity is way beyond that of most politicians. He doesn't even pretend to speak truthfully.
    He's the perfect leader for Brexit Britain.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Johnson joined Leave, thinking it was going to lose, so he could cry betrayal and claim to be the true patriot to the Tory gammonocracy. He is now doing the same with Hard Brexit.

    He is a politician.
    FTFY..
    To an extent, yes, but Johnson's mendacity is way beyond that of most politicians. He doesn't even pretend to speak truthfully.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    My favourite quotation from Johnson's masterpiece biography of Churchill.
    Nice one, write a book call it a biography "about Churchill", but write about his real hero.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    FTFY..
    My favourite quotation from Johnson's masterpiece biography of Churchill.

    As it was, the achievements of the Wehrmacht were astonishing: they captured millions of square miles and millions of men. They captured Stalingrad and reached the outer stations of the Moscow metro.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    Johnson joined Leave, thinking it was going to lose, so he could cry betrayal and claim to be the true patriot to the Tory gammonocracy. He is now doing the same with Hard Brexit.

    He is a politician.
    FTFY..

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Of course Boris and co could have stayed in the Government to push for their no deal Brexit, but they didn't they ran away and now just whine at the back of the Commons.

    They know full well it would be a disaster that's why they ran away.

    Johnson joined Leave, thinking it was going to lose, so he could cry betrayal and claim to be the true patriot to the Tory gammonocracy. He is now doing the same with Hard Brexit.

    He is a fool and a compulsive liar.

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  • Lance
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Of course Boris and co could have stayed in the Government to push for their no deal Brexit, but they didn't they ran away and now just whine at the back of the Commons.

    They know full well it would be a disaster that's why they ran away.

    Yup.

    They can then breeze back in, say it’s not their fault cos May fooked it up and carry on.

    Except David Davis.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Of course Boris and co could have stayed in the Government to push for their no deal Brexit, but they didn't they ran away and now just whine at the back of the Commons.

    They know full well it would be a disaster that's why they ran away.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    But Boris did, apparently.

    26th June 2016: "Boris Johnson has said the UK there will be “still have access to the single market”.
    Have access to, not be in. He is pro having and eating cake.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Boris Johnson, who spear-headed the Leave campaign, said: “When 17.4 million chose to leave the EU, they didn’t vote to stay locked in the customs union or the single market.”
    But Boris did, apparently.

    26th June 2016: "Boris Johnson has said the UK there will be “still have access to the single market”.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I think the continued need to pay Brussels for this privilege may put some people off.....
    Not when the economic benefits outweigh the costs. Unless by 'some people', you mean 'gammons'.

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  • jamesbrown
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    It's a non-runner, as it would impact adversely on the planned Empire 2.0 jam tea and biscuit export boom.
    This needs to be weighed against the opportunities of a hard brexit and the resulting boom in export sales to British expats. The bed-wetters market is full of "clever meanies" in urgent need of comfort and is, therefore, quite lucrative. High margin products include comfort blankets, No More Tears shampoo, and children's bedtime stories (That's not my unicorn, its mane is too fluffy etc.).

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