Reply to: Brexit, great for reducing net migration

[Paddy]

Leave.EU were tweeting yesterday, after this news came out, about how this is terrible given that we voted to end free movement.

FFS. We voted to leave the EU, with the consequence that Free Movement of Workers from the EU would end. Absolutely dick all in that vote about ending the migration of non-EU people. Its just that campaigning for a vote to end all foreigners would have had less support.

As a nation, we have an increasing number of pensions and have a load of lazy feckless fatties who don't want to work at all, because the benefits are so great. Far better to bring in Romanians to stuff chickens and pick lettuces. We *need* migration to pay the taxes for those benefits and pensions. I doubt those 'voluntary unemployed' will be standing up to work in my local hand car wash once the immigrants have stopped coming.

Making Eastern Europeans feel unwelcome because of their cheap labour has occurred, but even cheaper labour from Asia will simply fill the space instead.

Romanians tend to be well educated but will do any job for money. They tend to be hard working and reliable.

[Hobosapien]

HMOs - UK government laws?
Wage rates - UK government laws?

Will this end with Brexit? Doubt it.

Exactly. Brexit is a soap opera distraction to stop people worrying about the looming GFC 2.0. A few billion is nothing when trillions will be wiped out due to kicking the debt can too far down the road.

They failed to fix the roof while the sun was shining. Now the whole house needs demolishing. 'No deal' during a global recession is as good a time as any.

[meridian]

Where's the political party campaigning for the end of exploitation through cheap labour that leads to slave like conditions, such as HMOs where shifts of people timeshare bunks?



The point of the common market prior to the EU superstate project and freedom of movement was that they could do the work in their own countries and sell us the resulting produce, not have to come here to do the work at slave labour rates. Where did it go wrong?

HMOs - UK government laws?
Wage rates - UK government laws?

Will this end with Brexit? Doubt it.

[Hobosapien]

Where's the political party campaigning for the end of exploitation through cheap labour that leads to slave like conditions, such as HMOs where shifts of people timeshare bunks?



The point of the common market prior to the EU superstate project and freedom of movement was that they could do the work in their own countries and sell us the resulting produce, not have to come here to do the work at slave labour rates. Where did it go wrong?

[chopper]

Net migration stays the same. Instead of white people brown people are now coming, I'm sure that's exactly what the racist brexit voters wanted

Leave.EU were tweeting yesterday, after this news came out, about how this is terrible given that we voted to end free movement.

FFS. We voted to leave the EU, with the consequence that Free Movement of Workers from the EU would end. Absolutely dick all in that vote about ending the migration of non-EU people. Its just that campaigning for a vote to end all foreigners would have had less support.

As a nation, we have an increasing number of pensions and have a load of lazy feckless fatties who don't want to work at all, because the benefits are so great. Far better to bring in Romanians to stuff chickens and pick lettuces. We *need* migration to pay the taxes for those benefits and pensions. I doubt those 'voluntary unemployed' will be standing up to work in my local hand car wash once the immigrants have stopped coming.

Making Eastern Europeans feel unwelcome because of their cheap labour has occurred, but even cheaper labour from Asia will simply fill the space instead.

[Hobosapien]

Net migration stays the same. Instead of white people brown people are now coming, I'm sure that's exactly what the racist brexit voters wanted

The underlying reason for 'leave' voters wanting to curb immigration was the affect it has on wage suppression, local resources, and yes the overall threat to national identity by vastly different foreign cultures with whole areas of the UK changing by this new type of 'invasion'.

This problem isn't just within the UK but also other EU nations and also the USA. Globalisation is leading to protectionism on multiple levels, one being the exploitation of 'them and us' by right wing extremists. We know where that led to in 1920s Germany yet they are repeating the same mistakes by not listening to the people.

It is human nature to feel more comfortable within a community you identify with so easy for protectionists to stoke friction between cultures when things seem out of balance.

This problem will not be solved until there is one predominant non-religion based culture throughout the world. That's many hundreds of years away unless aliens arrive and speed up the process.

[Eirikur]

Net migration stays the same. Instead of white people brown people are now coming, I'm sure that's exactly what the racist brexit voters wanted

[shaunbhoy]

Next it will be non-EU fruit pickers and chicken stuffers...

Chin up. If they lower the bar far enough they may even invite you back. But only if we run out of traffic cones!!

[darmstadt]

Non-EU migration is to start: Government set to relax restrictions on non-EU doctors | Society | The Guardian

Next it will be non-EU fruit pickers and chicken stuffers...

[AtW]

Is that the ECJ that SupremeSpod helped found?

FTFY

[Paddy]

Is that the ECJ that Churchill helped found?

Oh yes!

[NotAllThere]

So UK can totally control non-EU immigration but fails to do so, no doubt due to evil EUSSR ECJ meanies...

Is that the ECJ that Churchill helped found?

[AtW]

So UK can totally control non-EU immigration but fails to do so, no doubt due to evil EUSSR ECJ meanies...

[Whorty]

Said no one who voted brexit ever!

Really? You saying immigration, FoM, and control of our borders, was not a reason idiots voted Brexit? And you lot, now you know the UK economy will be worse off under every Brexit scenario, now claim the economy also wasn't a consideration. Pray tell, what did you vote for?

Not:
- Immigration
- The Economy
- Hence can't be Trade (as trade is linked to the economy, and the EU can get better trade deals than we can on our own)

Was the only thing you voted for the rights of fishermen to trawl the North Sea until it's devoid of life?

[original PM]

Said no one who voted brexit ever!