Reply to: Tory Brexit No Deal DOOM™: Brexit deal is 'dead'

[meridian]

You're not suggesting that vetran (sic) doesn't know what he's talking about, are you? Shirley not.

No, not at all... ;-)

http://theconversation.com/fact-chec...f-europe-39966

Although the majority of fish stocks around the UK are managed under the CFP, some important stocks, mainly local shellfish species such as crabs, lobsters and scallops, are also managed under national jurisdictions and bilateral agreements

[sasguru]

The clue is in the word “fish”.

Look up whether shellfish fall under the CFP in those waters.

You're not suggesting that vetran (sic) doesn't know what he's talking about, are you? Shirley not.

[meridian]

So this is another useless quango we can dump then?

https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/fishing_rules_en




https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/f...cess-to-waters




I assume the UK fishing fleet count as part of the EU

You competing with AssGuru for thickest remainer on the block?

The clue is in the word “fish”.

Look up whether shellfish fall under the CFP in those waters.

[BlasterBates]

Another reason to push on with the hardest of hard Brexits:

Merkel supports plan to "steal" Euro clearing from London at the earliest opportunity

Might take a while but it looks like the EU will be making a big effort to "hollow out" London.

By the time Trump has his signature on the new US-UK deal I think we'll know where the rest of it will end up. London can go back to being the pick-pocket capital of the world just as it was in Dickens time.

[fiisch]

If the British were attacking the French without cause I would be backing the French.

None issue. If the British were attacking the French, the French would have immediately surrendered.

[shaunbhoy]

Barnier planning

Oxymoron of the month........

LOL

[BlasterBates]

so we really need to make a success of Brexit otherwise Barnier rules Europe? No pressure!

Labour would vote down a Canada style deal

The only Brexit that can command a majority in parliament is BRINO, i.e. the humiliating deal that Barnier has in mind.

[vetran]

Barnier planning HUMILIATING Brexit deal

so we really need to make a success of Brexit otherwise Barnier rules Europe? No pressure!

[vetran]

That area is not covered by the EU, it is international waters.

So this is another useless quango we can dump then?

https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/fishing_rules_en

It is in everyone's interest to have a fisheries management system in place to

safeguard stock reproduction for high long-term yield
lay the foundations for a profitable industry
share out fishing opportunities fairly, and
conserve marine resources

https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/cfp/f...cess-to-waters

As a general rule, fishing vessels registered in the EU fishing fleet register have equal access to all the EU waters and resources that are managed under the CFP. Access to fisheries is normally authorized through a fishing licence.

There are two temporary exceptions to this rule of equal access.

In the waters up to 12 nautical miles from the coasts of the EU countries access can be limited by the EU country to vessels and fisheries that traditionally fish in those waters from adjacent ports, to vessels identified under existing neighbourhood relations, and to vessels related to fisheries as listed in the CFP (annex ISearch for available translations of the preceding link•••). These restrictions generally give preferred access to vessels that traditionally fish in those waters from the adjacent ports.
In the waters up to 100 nautical miles from the coasts of Europe’s outermost regions access can be restricted to vessels registered in the ports of these territories and to vessels that traditionally fish in those waters.

I assume the UK fishing fleet count as part of the EU

You competing with AssGuru for thickest remainer on the block?

[BlasterBates]

Barnier planning HUMILIATING Brexit deal

Mr Coburn insisted that "destroying Brexit" would aide the Frenchman in his endeavour to take over the Commission.

He continued: "Humiliating Britain, destroying Brexit and punishing the UK for our arrogance and daring to vote for our country to run its own affairs would put him in that position.

"I think it’s plain to see for most sane voters that the UK Government and the European Commission are incapable of coming to an agreement that benefits the British people."

[BlasterBates]

The British were doing it legally, the French got violent & the EU did nothing.

I agree if the beds shouldn't be fished for conservation reasons then by all means arrange that with all parties before the season starts. If you can't then discuss it calmly and legally not throw rocks or steal lobster pots.

If the British were attacking the French without cause I would be backing the French.

That area is not covered by the EU, it is international waters.

[vetran]

The french fishermen are banned from fishing for Scallops in August due to conservation. The UK fishermen had not signed up to the conservation agreement and took advantage and fished Scallops out of season. It is the UK fishermen who have been disingenuous.

Had the situation been in reverse; you would be still moaning about the french.

The British were doing it legally, the French got violent & the EU did nothing.

I agree if the beds shouldn't be fished for conservation reasons then by all means arrange that with all parties before the season starts. If you can't then discuss it calmly and legally not throw rocks or steal lobster pots.

If the British were attacking the French without cause I would be backing the French.

[Paddy]

I would have thought it was a perfect opportunity to remind the EU one of the reasons why we are leaving, that other members just ignore the rules and get violent.

The french fishermen are banned from fishing for Scallops in August due to conservation. The UK fishermen had not signed up to the conservation agreement and took advantage and fished Scallops out of season. It is the UK fishermen who have been disingenuous.

Had the situation been in reverse; you would be still moaning about the french.

[scooterscot]

Not sure the RN has a frigate available to send out to the channel.

[original PM]

At least the French Navy are standing up for the rules... and for the British

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/s...-a3927406.html

It's almost like amidst all the drunk old men in Brussels rattling their sabres and grabbing their tiny crotches the actual people of Europe are waking up to the reality of what is happening.