Reply to: Trump, not at all contradictory...

[darmstadt]

Soooooo...are you saying that those of us with a German ancestry, although mine is one generation further back than Trumps, have a lying attitude?

Did I say that? What part of:

“Don’t forget both of my parents were born in EU sectors – my mother was Scotland, my father was Germany.”

Do you not understand? He is lying...

[Yorkie62]

Not contradictory, just outright 'fake news':



His father, Fred Trump, was born in New York City, in the United States of America. Not Germany. Fred Trump’s father, Friedrich Trump, was born in Germany, in the sleepy village of Kallstadt.

Actually reading about his ancestors you can see where he gets the lying attitude from...

Soooooo...are you saying that those of us with a German ancestry, although mine is one generation further back than Trumps, have a lying attitude?

[darmstadt]

Not contradictory, just outright 'fake news':

“I was there many, many years ago,” he said. “Meaning, my parents were born in the European Union. I love these countries; Germany, Scotland, they are still in there right?”

Last week, as Trump has careened across Europe, he repeated his touching tale. In an interview recorded in Scotland, he said: “Don’t forget both of my parents were born in EU sectors – my mother was Scotland, my father was Germany.”

His father, Fred Trump, was born in New York City, in the United States of America. Not Germany. Fred Trump’s father, Friedrich Trump, was born in Germany, in the sleepy village of Kallstadt.

Actually reading about his ancestors you can see where he gets the lying attitude from...

[darmstadt]

Changed his mind again: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44864739#

And like other right wingers, a feeble excuse

[Yorkie62]

Biggest vote in our lifetime, the two sets of campaigners spent 90% of the time slagging each other off and you based it on total unknowns. Neither provided a compelling enough argument for leaving or staying in terms of enough to vote for. The level of Brexit was not specified either, e.g. customs union, WTO agreement, Irish border, chunnel controls, etc.

It was an absolute farce all round and should have been abstained from by far more.

Sounds like your run of the mill general election campaign to me.

[meridian]

Wow, nobody asked for your lift story.

1st floor, haberdashery and men’s clothing, going up.....

[LondonManc]

Nope, some of us got off our arses to try to understand the ramifications and voted accordingly.

Some of us working in supply chains understood what leaving the CU and SM meant to our clients.

Some of us with Irish relatives (and passports) understood what the border there means and what was required to protect it.

Some of us understood that Freedom of Movement works both ways and also means the freedom of contracting Brits to work freely in any EU country of their choice without barriers.

Some of us have sat the British Citizenship test and understood that we always had control of our laws.

It was a farce, agreed. But it’s time to stop blaming others for your shortcomings.

Wow, nobody asked for your lift story.

[Whorty]

I bet you welcomed Obama interfering in the Brexit campaign when he was pro the EU.

Looks like we have another contender for the village idiot award. Where, anywhere, have I mentioned anything about Obama and his comments on Brexit, either supporting it or otherwise. This thread is about Trump, his pathological lying and his belief that the EU are the bad guys to his good guy self - but then he thinks every country is a bad guy; he's doing his best to alienate Americans which suits him perfectly, as his fellow xenophobic yanks will vote him in again to save them.

You Brexiodiot quitters are so predictable - criticize your hero Trump, you attack Obama. Criticize JRM and his cronies, you attack Corbyn. You assume just because someone doesn't like your similarly idiotic heroes, that we must like those you don't like. Well, it might surprise you that not everyone who voted remain likes Corbyn, or supports Obama's comments on Brexit (tbh, I didn't even know he had joined the debate!).

Now go away and worship your Trump effigy.

[meridian]

Biggest vote in our lifetime, the two sets of campaigners spent 90% of the time slagging each other off and you based it on total unknowns. Neither provided a compelling enough argument for leaving or staying in terms of enough to vote for. The level of Brexit was not specified either, e.g. customs union, WTO agreement, Irish border, chunnel controls, etc.

It was an absolute farce all round and should have been abstained from by far more.

Nope, some of us got off our arses to try to understand the ramifications and voted accordingly.

Some of us working in supply chains understood what leaving the CU and SM meant to our clients.

Some of us with Irish relatives (and passports) understood what the border there means and what was required to protect it.

Some of us understood that Freedom of Movement works both ways and also means the freedom of contracting Brits to work freely in any EU country of their choice without barriers.

Some of us have sat the British Citizenship test and understood that we always had control of our laws.

It was a farce, agreed. But it’s time to stop blaming others for your shortcomings.

[LondonManc]

Biggest vote in our lifetime and you couldn’t be bothered getting off your fat arse?

Plonker.

Biggest vote in our lifetime, the two sets of campaigners spent 90% of the time slagging each other off and you based it on total unknowns. Neither provided a compelling enough argument for leaving or staying in terms of enough to vote for. The level of Brexit was not specified either, e.g. customs union, WTO agreement, Irish border, chunnel controls, etc.

It was an absolute farce all round and should have been abstained from by far more.

[vetran]

Living in Germany for a number of years now, I'm quite puzzled by the sexual innuendo some in the UK have towards Germans. What's the source of it? Genuinely curious... it comes across as if the accusers have a lack of security in that department.

can't think why!

[BlasterBates]

£8.6 billion per year better off. Viagara is now OTC, so we should get easily further than a semi in four years.

Does that include the 40 bn leaving bill ?, and not to forget the 16 billion lost per annum due to the devaluation of the pound.

If you leave your job think of all those savings on petrol and bus fares.

[meridian]

and I opted not to vote

Biggest vote in our lifetime and you couldn’t be bothered getting off your fat arse?

Plonker.

[LondonManc]

The figure is about 2.5% of the government budget.

When you quote it in billions, it sounds like a lot. When you compare it with the rest of the budget, it's not much at all.

The biggest drain is social protection in its various guises. That's increasing most as a portion of the whole too. Quite funny that there's a whole flap about EU migrants when figures have shown that non-EU migrants are, on average, a bigger drain on that.

[WTFH]

£8.6 billion per year better off. Viagara is now OTC, so we should get easily further than a semi in four years.

The figure is about 2.5% of the government budget.

When you quote it in billions, it sounds like a lot. When you compare it with the rest of the budget, it's not much at all.