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Originally posted by pr1 View PostPresumably in a B2B contract proving you went to an office and sat in a chair isn't actually evidence that you produced one working days worth of output and hence deserve paying? Why does everyone suggest proving you sat in a chair on a certain day is enough to go legal and get paid £XXXX?
But even if they did query the quality of the work, it'd be strange (and obvious to a judge) if they'd paid for his work beforehand, and the only work they query the quality over, is exactly the days that the OP is claiming for non-payment.
The OP should go through the dunning process. He should only worry about the agency or the client muddying the waters, if they arise.
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Presumably in a B2B contract proving you went to an office and sat in a chair isn't actually evidence that you produced one working days worth of output and hence deserve paying? Why does everyone suggest proving you sat in a chair on a certain day is enough to go legal and get paid £XXXX?
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Originally posted by Lance View Postas long as OP has evidence of working the 3 days.
No point embarassing yourself in court without it.
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I'd just dun it to the small claims court. Chances are the agency will cave. The process isn't difficult.
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Not sure I could be bothered for 3 days money. You have a good case. But getting it enforced could be problematic. I hope you get the money.
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A sign of professionalism is a signed timesheet.
Looks like a Mexican stand-off. OP deciding to sue for not being paid the three days. Client deciding to sue for not getting the final two days. Result: Stalemate.
Who blinks first? One option is for OP to offer to do the final two days if client feels they need that additional time for handover, so all obligations can be met in a satisfactory way. While there is a risk the client would then withhold payment for 5 days instead of 3, there would be more weight on getting paid having shown you did what you were expected in the contract so less argument from client's management or a tribunal/court.
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Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View PostClient is not going to pay for rubbish service / hopefully they won’t ask for money back
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Harsh
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Client is not going to pay for rubbish service / hopefully they won’t ask for money back
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Pretty common topic on here so there are plenty of good threads for you to read. All will give exactly the same answer as NAT as it's pretty black and white. You worked it, you are legally entitled, client is pissed off and is being an arse. Happens a lot. The threads below will detail the steps you need to follow.
sign timesheets site:forums.contractoruk.com - Google Search
Couple of interesting points to consider though..
I was thinking to start on 6th August a new contract, but new agency started pushing on me to start earlier
- As I saw in the contract I am able to work on different contracts and projects when I am with existing one so I decided to finish handover on 31st July and say I am off next two days (1st and 2nd Aug).
And you just can't decide you are unavailable the last 2 days. By starting at the new gig you are in breach of your old one. Just because you can work for other clients it doesn't mean you can start a new full time one before the old full time one has ended. You've bent that clause beyond recognition so I'd say if you went legal you would be in breach. While you are in a contract there are certain obligations to do work and to get paid. You've effectively ended the old contract before notice is up.
- I started a new contract on the 1st of August, not showing anymore in Client's office
- I created timesheets covering days where I was with Client (29, 30, 31 July) only on Friday, 2nd of August
Read the threads in the link, do what they advise and hope it works. They could decide to sue you for breach and loss of income but the bottom line is they cannot hold money back. They have to pay you and THEN sue.
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A general principle. If you did the work you're entitled to be paid. Are you opted in, or opted out of agency regs?
Send your invoice for the unpaid/unsigned days to the agency anyway. When/if they don't pay it, start dunning. How much are you owed?
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Client refuses to sign my timesheets
Hi everyone,
I read this forum for some time period, but never wrote a post. Now I am in a bit hard situation and not sure if you are able to help somehow?
- Cooperation with my client never went in a good way, I have been stalked by the agency and get signs of mobbing from my project manager
- I did receive interesting offer from another agency on 18th of July to provide some contract for public sector
- I did write notice on 19th July I will be with Client for two more weeks up to 2nd August to make handover and finish what they needed
- I was thinking to start on 6th August a new contract, but new agency started pushing on me to start earlier
- As I saw in the contract I am able to work on different contracts and projects when I am with existing one so I decided to finish handover on 31st July and say I am off next two days (1st and 2nd Aug).
- I started a new contract on the 1st of August, not showing anymore in Client's office
- I created timesheets covering days where I was with Client (29, 30, 31 July) only on Friday, 2nd of August
- Client is now avoiding to sing timesheets, my project manager blocked my phone number, agency keep saying I breached contract
- I clearly don't see anything wrong in what I did, especially regarding how they treat me there. I also requested only to be paid for days where was with them only as it is in the contract
- I did email exchange with my project manager (not responding), agency, but not too much info and finally as advised by Client's HR - where I heard I will hear some more later today, but trying to get any further information I only received information, person responsible for HR stuff is off afternoon - no response as promised, even if they verbally agreed to my situation
I am not sure if I should escalate it higher to Client's CEO, o request some law advise and just call them into the court. I am trying to be transparent with you, but do you think I should be paid and fight for my timesheets?Tags: None
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