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Originally posted by smalldog View Postinteresting how Ive never experienced that personally. if you dont mind me asking do you work in a specific industry?
I generally only need internet access and it’s not hard to set up a separate WiFi network that is isolated from the corporate network which is what I imagine some do.
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Originally posted by smalldog View Postinteresting how Ive never experienced that personally. if you dont mind me asking do you work in a specific industry?
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Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post"Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network."
Clearly they didn't have a VPN then. My current client allows access to their Intranet using VPN through the Internet.
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostI think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostI think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.
Clearly they didn't have a VPN then. My current client allows access to their Intranet using VPN through the Internet.
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostI think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.
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Originally posted by WordIsBond View PostAbsolutely. Anything that distinguishes you from permies should go into your IR35 file.
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostFew things I keep in my "Im not an employee" listare:
- I am not allowed on the corporate intranet
- Im not invited to any of the "work" events
- Im excluded from all employee comms newsletters and emails
- my user name actually has the abbreviation External consultant pre-fix
I know some of the above doesnt count in the official list of things but its all valid and I would be using them in any argument.
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Originally posted by smalldog View PostFew things I keep in my "Im not an employee" listare:
- I am not allowed on the corporate intranet
- Im not invited to any of the "work" events
- Im excluded from all employee comms newsletters and emails
- my user name actually has the abbreviation External consultant pre-fix
I know some of the above doesnt count in the official list of things but its all valid and I would be using them in any argument.
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Few things I keep in my "Im not an employee" listare:
- I am not allowed on the corporate intranet
- Im not invited to any of the "work" events
- Im excluded from all employee comms newsletters and emails
- my user name actually has the abbreviation External consultant pre-fix
I know some of the above doesnt count in the official list of things but its all valid and I would be using them in any argument.
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Originally posted by Culzean View PostThanks for all of that .. I didn't appreciate it was such a minefield!! To respond to a few of your points
* I get zero direction. Initially I worked on a few projects but for the last 2/3 years I have had a stand alone role and no direction whatsoever ... in fact I am about the only person in the business that understands what I do!
* I use the term 'boss' lightly ... only time I saw him in 2018 was for a pre Xmas drink
* They do regard me as a contractor, most definitely
* All 3 contracts I had included a right of substitution
I think the IR35 issue (of which I clearly don't have a good knowledge of) is the key issue here. My initial question was designed to seek advice as to how I might go back in the event they tell me 'time's up'. It's clear I have no basis to argue the matter and so I just hope they honour the last contract and give me the 4 weeks.
As for HMRC, maybe I just hope that by closing down my Ltd Co before the end of my Fin Yr (August) will mean I keep off their radar too (if indeed there is anything to worry about)
Thanks again
I'm honestly amazed that after all the years that IR35 has been in existence, debated and challenged, that there are still some like yourself who are not IR35 savvy. I wish you well, but you really need to catch up quickly on the implications of IR35 and try to absorb the very good advice on these fora.
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