Advice - Rights after 4+ years

[WordIsBond]

Few things I keep in my "Im not an employee" listare:
- I am not allowed on the corporate intranet
- Im not invited to any of the "work" events
- Im excluded from all employee comms newsletters and emails
- my user name actually has the abbreviation External consultant pre-fix

I know some of the above doesnt count in the official list of things but its all valid and I would be using them in any argument.

Absolutely. Anything that distinguishes you from permies should go into your IR35 file.

[smalldog]

Absolutely. Anything that distinguishes you from permies should go into your IR35 file.

I think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.

[simes]

Agreed.

[mudskipper]

I think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.

And laptops are specifically excluded from the 'test' in the CEST tool in any case (I use my own all the time).

[JohntheBike]

I think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.

"Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network."

Clearly they didn't have a VPN then. My current client allows access to their Intranet using VPN through the Internet.

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

I think one of their "tests" is folly. Its in relation to providing your own equipment. Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network. It just doesnt happen and shows a lack of understanding how IT works and Ive worked in Public S. Be interesting to know if HMRC would allow a random to plug their laptop into their network, I doubt it very much! To me its not a valid test.

I’ve never had a client that’s NOT let me use my own laptop.

[smalldog]

"Dont think I have ever worked in an org that allows you to plug in your own laptop to their network."

Clearly they didn't have a VPN then. My current client allows access to their Intranet using VPN through the Internet.

From Home Ive managed to use Citrix in the past, but not allowed to use own kit in the office.

[smalldog]

I’ve never had a client that’s NOT let me use my own laptop.

interesting how Ive never experienced that personally. if you dont mind me asking do you work in a specific industry?

[mudskipper]

interesting how Ive never experienced that personally. if you dont mind me asking do you work in a specific industry?

Of my last 5 contracts, only one has not allowed me to use my own laptop.

[smalldog]

Of my last 5 contracts, only one has not allowed me to use my own laptop.

Just proves my point, using your own equipment cant be used as a test. Or you would have failed on at least one engagement....anyway.