test please delete

[SimonMac]

Morning all

Todays commute was enlivened by the cat attempting to trip me up on my way down stairs.

[norrahe]

Are they (mostly) cloggies?

yep, it's the non cloggies who do listen.

[Mich the Tester]

yep, it's the non cloggies who do listen.

Thought so. The secret with cloggies is that they'll never listen and will always do things their own way, so you just have to let them fook it all up and then charge a tulipload of money to straighten things out afterwards; it's what keeps the immense 'consultancy' industry going in NL and an even bigger training and courses industry. Of course this is easier as a contractor.

[norrahe]

Thought so. The secret with cloggies is that they'll never listen and will always do things their own way, so you just have to let them fook it all up and then charge a tulipload of money to straighten things out afterwards; it's what keeps the immense 'consultancy' industry going in NL and an even bigger training and courses industry. Of course this is easier as a contractor.

Natuurlijk!

[Mich the Tester]

Natuurlijk!

It's exactly what I'm doing now; they've gone completely over the top with procedures and scripted testing and quality systems and whatnot here, but I'm biding my time. I give them some workshops on alternative ideas like exploratory testing and agile testing, which they recieve quite well as I tactfully tell them it's adding weapons to their armoury, even though it actually contradicts everything they do. But that's OK; I'll wait until the project ends up in a mess and nothing can get done on time and the end customer's getting hot under the collar, and then suggest 'remember what I told you about <...> during that course? it could be a good time to try that now'. There's no other way with cloggies; they're just too stubborn to believe you until they bugger it up themselves.

[norrahe]

It's exactly what I'm doing now; they've gone completely over the top with procedures and scripted testing and quality systems and whatnot here, but I'm biding my time. I give them some workshops on alternative ideas like exploratory testing and agile testing, which they recieve quite well as I tactfully tell them it's adding weapons to their armoury, even though it actually contradicts everything they do. But that's OK; I'll wait until the project ends up in a mess and nothing can get done on time and the end customer's getting hot under the collar, and then suggest 'remember what I told you about <...> during that course? it could be a good time to try that now'. There's no other way with cloggies; they're just too stubborn to believe you until they bugger it up themselves.

These guys are b*ggering it up big time but are too thick to realise.

[zeitghost]

Taking down shelves now.

<ZG in "leave nothing but footprints" mode>

[Bunk]

Afternoon all

[FiveTimes]

Only a couple more hours to go

[DaveB]

Taking down shelves now.

<ZG in "leave nothing but nasty surprises" mode>

ftfy