This was the rationale given for my inside IR35 determination when I asked end client

[eek]

Most tried to jump ship but the market dead for past year - can’t pay bills on the bench


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Can they afford the forthcoming historic tax bill?

[GhostofTarbera]

Can they afford the forthcoming historic tax bill?

Nope, that can is kicked further down the road


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[northernladuk]

Depends what he's been doing in those 2 years and how he has conducted himself. It's easy to slip into part and parcel of the corporate structure if he hasn't been paying attention. But there is no such law that states length of contract as being a pointer to employment - many businesses have multi-year partnerships.

CEST would have been pointless : the client's answers would have had the OP inside anyway.

Bit tired of pointing this out but.. Yes you are technically correct there is no law but its been a factor in every single lost case and you would imagine it would be a factor in who HMRC pick next. So no law but a very important factor to be wary of.

[juckky]

Sadly I too have bills and a mortgage to pay, but the prospect of HMRC retrospectively going on a witch hunt for those who contracted outside and then went inside IR35 for the same client / role would keep me awake more than finding a way to pay said bills.

[Paralytic]

Can they afford the forthcoming historic tax bill?

They won't have to. The ones I know are emptying/closing down their PSCs. Would need HMRC to come after them personally.

[eek]

They won't have to. The ones I know are emptying/closing down their PSCs. Would need HMRC to come after them personally.

Which HMRC might in about 3 years time...

[BolshieBastard]

They won't have to. The ones I know are emptying/closing down their PSCs. Would need HMRC to come after them personally.

Not a single one of them is closing their limited cos without HMRC's say so. Or, to be more accurate, HMRC not objecting to the closure of the ltd.

With lots of one man IT limited cos applying to be closed down, dont you think HMRC might take a passing interest in a representative sample at least?

[drmouse]

They won't have to. The ones I know are emptying/closing down their PSCs. Would need HMRC to come after them personally.

And HMRC will come after them personally. The tax man isn't deterred by a company closing down.

AFAIK (correct me if I am wrong) if a company employed you but didn't pay your PAYE income tax and then closed down, HMRC could still come after you for the unpaid amount.

[Paralytic]

And HMRC will come after them personally. The tax man isn't deterred by a company closing down.

AFAIK (correct me if I am wrong) if a company employed you but didn't pay your PAYE income tax and then closed down, HMRC could still come after you for the unpaid amount.

Any examples of this *ever* happening, except in obviously fraudulent cases?

[Paralytic]

And HMRC will come after them personally. The tax man isn't deterred by a company closing down.

Any examples of this *ever* happening, except in obviously fraudulent cases?