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    #11
    Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
    I got an inside on repeat contracts which are clearly outside. Fortunately for me, my client is "small" so it's not an issue. My clientB which is equivalent to servicing the photcopier got an undecided.
    Is that on the new shiny version? I know you like to road-test each time it gets a tweak
    Doing a stroll around Windsor on 11 Sept 2 Oct for Alzheimer's Society. You can chuck me a few quid here if you like: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/lmallen-1

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      #12
      Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
      Is that on the new shiny version? I know you like to road-test each time it gets a tweak
      Aye - new questions on IPR, whether you have to spend dosh before being reimbursed, whether your contracts are back to back, whether you have other clients etc.

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        #13
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        Aye - new questions on IPR, whether you have to spend dosh before being reimbursed, whether your contracts are back to back, whether you have other clients etc.
        I can just about see back to back contracts as eventually everyone may become complacent.

        Other clients is however completely irrelevant given the case law regarding the specialist who was found to be inside and unable to claim expenses for a 1 afternoon a week consultancy job at another NHS trust.
        merely at clientco for the entertainment

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          #14
          Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
          I got an inside on repeat contracts which are clearly outside. Fortunately for me, my client is "small" so it's not an issue. My clientB which is equivalent to servicing the photcopier got an undecided.
          So that's you being penalised for getting repeat business. Who makes this cr@p up?
          Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

          I preferred version 1!

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            #15
            Originally posted by BoredBloke View Post
            So that's you being penalised for getting repeat business. Who makes this cr@p up?
            Look at it from the other direction - a lot of contractors are replacement for permanent staff. And someone who is continually renewed and accepts such renewals does look very similar to a permanent member of staff.

            On one side it's penalising repeat business on the other side the purpose of these IR35 changes is to discourage firms from using limited company contractors as a replacement for permanent staff.
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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              #16
              The data that the form runs from can be found here - off-payroll-decision/conf/tables/2.4 at master . hmrc/off-payroll-decision . GitHub

              Looking at this one as an example, it seems as though the `HIGH` values in result are mapping to it being inside

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                #17
                I have repeat business but often with a good few years in-between contracts. It's would be disappointing to be tarred with the same brush as someone on a perpetual rolling 6 month contract
                Doing a stroll around Windsor on 11 Sept 2 Oct for Alzheimer's Society. You can chuck me a few quid here if you like: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/lmallen-1

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by eek View Post
                  Look at it from the other direction - a lot of contractors are replacement for permanent staff. And someone who is continually renewed and accepts such renewals does look very similar to a permanent member of staff.

                  On one side it's penalising repeat business on the other side the purpose of these IR35 changes is to discourage firms from using limited company contractors as a replacement for permanent staff.
                  Large complex IT projects take about 3 (up to 5) years to deliver on average*. If companies used permies exclusively and planned to sack most of them after delivery the severance bill would be quite crippling.

                  * Excluding public sector never-ending-stories.

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                    #19
                    Interestingly a previous pub sec outside role, & checked by QDOS, has returned an inside result.
                    Clarity is everything

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                      #20
                      Substitution seems to be the silver bullet. So if you are a PSC with no cover, you look knackered.

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