HMRC asking for Outside IR35 PSC details

[MrButton]

Interesting - Ive not seen any discussion on this yet.

I'm currently in the public sector, deemed outside IR35 by the client via CEST. I've used substitutes a couple of times.... Don't really understand this sweeping advice:

"HMRC seems to be doing everything it can to raise more tax, regardless of the letter of the law. If contractors don't want to become a victim of HMRC's witch hunt, they need to leave the public sector to mitigate any risk of future investigation. The taxman's intentions are clear."

[BlackCountryContractor]

Interesting - Ive not seen any discussion on this yet.

I'm currently in the public sector, deemed outside IR35 by the client via CEST. I've used substitutes a couple of times.... Don't really understand this sweeping advice:

"HMRC seems to be doing everything it can to raise more tax, regardless of the letter of the law. If contractors don't want to become a victim of HMRC's witch hunt, they need to leave the public sector to mitigate any risk of future investigation. The taxman's intentions are clear."

Doesn't surprise me though HMRC will have a nightmare on their hands as third party intermediaries like DXC and Computacenter are private sector bodies so trying to go after them for their contractors who work on government sites will inevitably get stuck in the mud after a point.

[ChimpMaster]

Worth noting as many of the points as you can, should you get into discussions with HMRC.

The big ones for me are the 2 below; this is what I have done the most over my (long, private sector) contract.

2. Taking time off by informing, and not asking, your client
9. Working from a home office, also known as ‘business premises’

[malvolio]

Worth noting as many of the points as you can, should you get into discussions with HMRC.

The big ones for me are the 2 below; this is what I have done the most over my (long, private sector) contract.

2. Taking time off by informing, and not asking, your client
9. Working from a home office, also known as ‘business premises’

Shame neither has any bearing on IR35...

[Anonimouse]

BOE are issuing letters to state we are outside.

[cojak]

No surprise there I’m afraid. We covered that in one of our first posts on this forum: https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ewal-time.html

[ChimpMaster]

Shame neither has any bearing on IR35...

It does according to CEST. In fact, having the right to choose your working location is a big plus, as is making your own work schedule.

So regardless of what one might believe IR35 to comprise, CEST will be one of the main tools clients and HMRC will use in determining your status.

[Grasser73]

Yes, as Cojak said, this was presaged prior to implementation. The term 'sitting ducks' was never more appropriate.

[cojak]

Threads merged.

[MrButton]

Yes, as Cojak said, this was presaged prior to implementation. The term 'sitting ducks' was never more appropriate.

Not sure I fully understand.

I get that if you deemed yourself outside prior to implementation. Then your clients deemed you inside then you’re ripe for the picking.

But how is a contractor deemed outside by their public sector client a sitting duck? Which seems to be the details their asking for.