IR35 PS - So anyone had the discussion yet?

[Andy Hallett]

There are a lot of locum doctors going to be caught by this, as a result I am not planning to be ill or have an accident between March and end of May.

[cojak]

...Wonder if it will really all start in April or whether it will be delayed or de-scoped a bit.

Very little chance of either of those two things happening.

[MrMarkyMark]

Very little chance of either of those two things happening.

<Tuesday Analogy>It should be likened to a steam roller at the top of a hill, on a very busy road, the driver has just got out of the cab leaving the handbrake off.<Tuesday Analogy>

[Andy Hallett]

<Tuesday Analogy>It should be likened to a steam roller at the top of a hill, on a very busy road, the driver has just got out of the cab leaving the handbrake off.<Tuesday Analogy>

It should be likened to a steam roller at the top of a hill, on a very busy road, the driver has just put his headphones on to ignore the calls to stop and goes full throttle downhill.

[MrMarkyMark]

It should be likened to a steam roller at the top of a hill, on a very busy road, the driver has just put his headphones on to ignore the calls to stop and goes full throttle downhill.

Brilliant and very relevant enhancement

[b r]

There are a lot of locum doctors going to be caught by this, as a result I am not planning to be ill or have an accident between March and end of May.

As I've said previously, don't be ill over the Easter weekend as that'll be the first time it dawns on a load of the Doctors etc of the (financial) impact.

[NHS1979]

I am working as an interim manager for an NHS organisation, and started in January. Signed a contract only till end of March. My contract is between my Ltd company and an agency, who in turn have a contract with the NHS.

The work is going really well and they will want me beyond end of March. My job involves having a line a manager and specific responsibilities, but the job is not in the permanent job structure (plan is that when I leave they will know whether to create it as a permanent job).

I am awaiting the NHS' slow decisions on IR35. I expect the options will be same as TfL recently. If I sign a new contract for April onwards am I in danger of retrospective checking by HMRC? Worried now and don't want to leave (unless I am forced into a 40% income drop by joining NHS payroll). Thanks for your help

[northernladuk]

The answer to a number of your questions and a clear view on what situation you are facing are in these very threads. Bit of reading is in order IMO. You'll find some bad news about your payment in April as well.

[cojak]

I am working as an interim manager for an NHS organisation, and started in January. Signed a contract only till end of March. My contract is between my Ltd company and an agency, who in turn have a contract with the NHS.

The work is going really well and they will want me beyond end of March. My job involves having a line a manager and specific responsibilities, but the job is not in the permanent job structure (plan is that when I leave they will know whether to create it as a permanent job).

I am awaiting the NHS' slow decisions on IR35. I expect the options will be same as TfL recently. If I sign a new contract for April onwards am I in danger of retrospective checking by HMRC? Worried now and don't want to leave (unless I am forced into a 40% income drop by joining NHS payroll). Thanks for your help

We don't know for certain but following pub talk amongst those who ought to know it's a strong possibility.

But don't expect any clarification on this until after the 6th April. HMRC wouldn't want to lose all of that potential lovely dosh, would they?

The business decision is ultimately yours. How much have you got to lose and how risk averse are you?

No-one can answer that for you.

[NHS1979]

The answer to a number of your questions and a clear view on what troubles are in these very threads. Bit of reading is in order IMO. You'll find some bad news about your payment in April as well.

I have been reading all of these threads, plus joining webinars run by the agencies, and discussing with a number of other interims in same patch as me. Perhaps we're all missing something, but not immediately clear if not being in the job structure, and signing a new contract from April frees me from the retrospective threat. I'm sure if needed I could also get the job description tweaked to be a bit different. Even less clear if switching to their payroll makes me immune to retrospective check, or if them making blanket decisions also helps as can just say 'they made us all IR35 guv'.