Results of the public sector consultation is up

[jamesbrown]

Not convinced it will hit private sector now. I was last year, but having seen what a disaster this is shaping up to be think it might be shelved.

HMRC love to double-down on disaster though; it's what they do best Also, conveniently, when the PS is deserted, "levelling the playing field" will be an easy sell to politicians.

[Andy Hallett]

HMRC love to double-down on disaster though; it's what they do best Also, conveniently, when the PS is deserted, "levelling the playing field" will be an easy sell to politicians.

I thought that as well, I suspect that UK PLC won't want to be upping wage costs to international firms by 20% in the post-Brexit apocalypse. At least not for a few years.

[jamesbrown]

I thought that as well, I suspect that UK PLC won't want to be upping wage costs to international firms by 20% in the post-Brexit apocalypse. At least not for a few years.

I think that might've been the case with Hamface, but May has consistently shown that she's willing to ignore business when it's contrary to her priorities, and being tough on avoidance is easy territory. Plus, the economy is fine. Autumn Budget for an announcement, I reckon, otherwise it's several years away, and they seem awfully keen on protecting that "25m" (read 440m). The only thing likely to scupper it is more fundamental reform, post-Taylor, whether involving apportionment rules for close companies or something else.

[bobspud]

I thought that as well, I suspect that UK PLC won't want to be upping wage costs to international firms by 20% in the post-Brexit apocalypse. At least not for a few years.

20% thats very conservative. My rate looks like it needs to almost double. (require a lot of expenses as I commute long distances / stay away a lot. )

[MPwannadecentincome]

HMRC love to double-down on disaster though; it's what they do best Also, conveniently, when the PS is deserted, "levelling the playing field" will be an easy sell to politicians.

and after most have left 90% of all contractors remaining in public sector will be paying full taxes and NI - HMRC goal achieved!

[eek]

20% thats very conservative. My rate looks like it needs to almost double. (require a lot of expenses as I commute long distances / stay away a lot. )

+1. I will be asking for 20% more for a local contract. London would require over £1000 unless they cover all expenses

[sal]

+1. I will be asking for 20% more for a local contract. London would require over £1000 unless they cover all expenses

Well it's only natural, since you (we) are going to be an "employee"

[lucyclarityumbrella]

The 'payer', which in most cases is the agency will be responsible for deducting and indeed responsible in the event of mis-classification.

The contractor cannot in theory get it wrong, as they no longer decide.

And following on from the discussions in the initial IR35 PS consultation, the only true way for every party to be safe is for all parties in the chain to complete the test (when it finally emerges) and that includes the contractor (especially if they fancy arguing the case )! HMRC said that if there is a case whereby results differ in the chain, then they would look at all parties to decide where the chain fell down and if/who supplied false information.

As you all said - the likelihood of the client or agency taking this risk is highly unlikely. Maybe it's time for some PSLs to be reviewed

[seeourbee]

Trying to find the answers to these on here,but can't:

A) which body would pay the fine if a contract is deemed inside 35 but treated as outside , and

B) who actually pays the employers national insurance to HMRC . Isn't it the public sector body ? Not the agency

[eek]

Trying to find the answers to these on here,but can't:

A) which body would pay the fine if a contract is deemed inside 35 but treated as outside , and

B) who actually pays the employers national insurance to HMRC . Isn't it the public sector body ? Not the agency

b) it's paid to HMRC by the last person before the PSC, so the agency...