Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[QCApproved]

Agreed if most indeed are
Snow Leopards and the contractor as described above very rare species

[FireOnion]

I'd be quite happy to argue that based on just that statement alone.

I suspected you would but that's not really the issue here.

bearing in mind the impact on being paid after April and all that?

I have an agreement that my invoice will be settled early.

Can't polish a turd I am afraid. You sound like the shining example of what HMRC is trying to deal with IMO. And again... at no point in any of this did you even consider just happily throwing in the towel and go looking for another contract, like contractors do.

How presumptuous of you... I have been considering this since the consultation. I've just been patiently waiting for the PS client to actually react and make some decisions. They are now doing so and jumping to the HMRC tune. I wouldn't call this being institutionalised. I'm just not that type of contractor who only cares about themselves. Maybe i should be but it's not the way i work. I doubt i'll be going into the private sector (or remaining in the PS) my plans B, C and D are for very different business ventures!

Assuming therefore that your advice is stay (if truly outside) or leave and nothing in the middle?

[PS oh noes]

Why not just go get a gig in the private sector, the same way you would have probably had to do should the PS gig end and just carry on being a contractor? Make the radical leap later when you are ready?

Finding a private gig is plans A through WTF. But I like to understand options.

Again, back to normative decision game theory.

[northernladuk]

I suspected you would but that's not really the issue here.

I would have thought with the noise on retrospective legislation today I though it was pretty key.

I have an agreement that my invoice will be settled early.

That's a win then.

How presumptuous of you... I have been considering this since the consultation. I've just been patiently waiting for the PS client to actually react and make some decisions. They are now doing so and jumping to the HMRC tune. I wouldn't call this being institutionalised. I'm just not that type of contractor who only cares about themselves. Maybe i should be but it's not the way i work. I doubt i'll be going into the private sector (or remaining in the PS) my plans B, C and D are for very different business ventures!

Assuming therefore that your advice is stay (if truly outside) or leave and nothing in the middle?

Don't think I've ever said stay did I? Middle is so grey it's a nightmare, particularly with todays news so better to leave and just carry on being a contractor IMO. But it is IMO.

The institutionalized comment was frustration from a number of days of much of the same and not particularly aimed at you. I just don't get why people are putting so much focus and effort and willing to expose themselves to so much unknown risk when it's just a gig. It's for a temporary period, it will end and you will have to go find something else eventually. If anyone doesn't think about any of those things then you should rightly be caught by this legislation.

[FireOnion]

The institutionalized comment was frustration from a number of days of much of the same and not particularly aimed at you. I just don't get why people are putting so much focus and effort and willing to expose themselves to so much unknown risk when it's just a gig. It's for a temporary period, it will end and you will have to go find something else eventually. If anyone doesn't think about any of those things then you should rightly be caught by this legislation.

I get you. I suppose we all think our circumstances are unique and we are different to the herd of contracting sheep out there. I am even more nervous after the news today although i fully expected it.
I'm pretty re-focused that there is really only one option. My PS client agrees I can be deemed outside and gives me a contract accordingly (it's a totally new project) or i really only have 7 weeks left! Maybe a nice holiday somewhere in the sun is in order.....

[seeourbee]

What news today ? What have I missed now ?

[SueEllen]

What news today ? What have I missed now ?

Sign up for the contractoruk emails.

[northernladuk]

Sign up for the contractoruk emails.

Keep an eye on LinkedIn.

[FireOnion]

What news today ? What have I missed now ?

This one:-

If your agency's payroll runs on the 24th of the month.

As it says here: IR35 inspectors to probe public PSCs retrospectively :: Contractor UK

You've got 12 days to make up your mind whether or not to jump ship.

[seeourbee]

The retrospective ir35 article ? Won't ir35 insurance cover that ?