Edge EBT thread

[FHP143]

The below is a direct quote from a tax barristers website.
Are you saying this is incorrect and you can appeal with no grounds?
Is so, I'll strike these from the list of possibles!
If not, the short appeal letter is not a valid appeal....

"Notice of appeal
If you decide to appeal, that must be done by notice in writing. The notice must be given to HMRC within 30 days. Furthermore, the First-tier Tribunal have recently held that is not enough to merely say that you wish to appeal a conclusion of HMRC, for a notice of appeal to be valid you must also set out the grounds upon which you wish to appeal the decision."

It would make sense that if you are appealing for the first time that you give the reason for the appeal and state the grounds on which you are appealing but if this is your second go around, then the shorter version seems better. If anyone has appealed the second time round using the short version, it would be good to know if HMRC has responded and if so, what they have stated. I know its early days yet and unlikely but anybody who has had a response, please post and let us know what the outcome has been.

[Saleos]

Edge - HMRC Discovery Assessments

A large number of former Edge employees are receiving "discovery" assessments from HMRC for the 2009-10 tax year. Many of those assessments may have been made "out of time".

I am a Chartered Tax Advisor currently representing a very large number of contractors in their dealings with HMRC regarding arrangements very similar to those used by Edge.

I have been contacted by a small number of former Edge employees looking for professional assistance following the closure of Edge/Norla. It is my hope to establish an independent "fighting fund" into which members would contribute so as to minimise the individual cost of dealing with HMRC.

If you are in a similar position and are looking for a tax advisor with extensive experience in this area please do contact me.

[Michael J Perry FCA]

Appeal letter

The below is a direct quote from a tax barristers website.
Are you saying this is incorrect and you can appeal with no grounds?
Is so, I'll strike these from the list of possibles!
If not, the short appeal letter is not a valid appeal....

"Notice of appeal
If you decide to appeal, that must be done by notice in writing. The notice must be given to HMRC within 30 days. Furthermore, the First-tier Tribunal have recently held that is not enough to merely say that you wish to appeal a conclusion of HMRC, for a notice of appeal to be valid you must also set out the grounds upon which you wish to appeal the decision."

My appeal template does state the ground for appeal and this elicits a standard short acceptance letter from HMRC.

[administrator]

A large number of former Edge employees are receiving "discovery" assessments from HMRC for the 2009-10 tax year. Many of those assessments may have been made "out of time".

I am a Chartered Tax Advisor currently representing a very large number of contractors in their dealings with HMRC regarding arrangements very similar to those used by Edge.

I have been contacted by a small number of former Edge employees looking for professional assistance following the closure of Edge/Norla. It is my hope to establish an independent "fighting fund" into which members would contribute so as to minimise the individual cost of dealing with HMRC.

If you are in a similar position and are looking for a tax advisor with extensive experience in this area please do contact me.

Hi Saleos,

Welcome to the forum. I have checked out your company and, while it was only formed this year I have seen your LI profile and don't mind this post being included. Please do read the terms and conditions of using the forum:
Bulletin Board Terms and Conditions :: Contractor UK

Especially point 6 regarding marketing your services. With this in mind I have removed the link to your company but if anyone readying the thread wants to check you or your company out then can simply search for Saleos in Google and they will be able to find all they need to know I am sure.

We would be more than happy for you to post what advice and assistance you can give the individuals here caught up in this so, in return for allowing your post through, please do feel free to post what updates you can or give what advice you can as I am sure we would all appreciate it.

Kind Regards

Admin

[Tweedle]

My appeal template does state the ground for appeal and this elicits a standard short acceptance letter from HMRC.

Sorry, cannot find your template posted anywhere on this forum, must be elsewhere or something you're PMing only - the only short response Ive found on this forum was in post 275:

“Thank you for your recent correspondence, I do not agree with your assessment and therefore wish to appeal this decision. Please postpone collection of this tax demand”

This contains no grounds for appeal, and in response to post 421, I don't think we're trying to "make sense" here - there's nothing sensible about this whole business, we're trying to do things correctly and legally so HMRC can't win on a technicality....

[cojak]

Hi Saleos,

Welcome to the forum. I have checked out your company and, while it was only formed this year I have seen your LI profile and don't mind this post being included. Please do read the terms and conditions of using the forum:
Bulletin Board Terms and Conditions :: Contractor UK

Especially point 6 regarding marketing your services. With this in mind I have removed the link to your company but if anyone readying the thread wants to check you or your company out then can simply search for Saleos in Google and they will be able to find all they need to know I am sure.

We would be more than happy for you to post what advice and assistance you can give the individuals here caught up in this so, in return for allowing your post through, please do feel free to post what updates you can or give what advice you can as I am sure we would all appreciate it.

Kind Regards

Admin

And we do keep a very close eye on these threads...

[cojak]

Sorry, cannot find your template posted anywhere on this forum, must be elsewhere or something you're PMing only - the only short response Ive found on this forum was in post 275:

“Thank you for your recent correspondence, I do not agree with your assessment and therefore wish to appeal this decision. Please postpone collection of this tax demand”

This contains no grounds for appeal, and in response to post 421, I don't think we're trying to "make sense" here - there's nothing sensible about this whole business, we're trying to do things correctly and legally so HMRC can't win on a technicality....

Here is it.

Again.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc-...ml#post1705090

[newedge]

Admin PM Right Request

I'll like to be join the appeal.
please grant me admin rights.

which of the appeal letters should i use the?

thanks

<admin note>PM rights granted</admin note>

[newedge]

Admin PM Right Request

please grant me admin rights.
<admin note>PM rights granted</admin note>
thanks

[Michael J Perry FCA]

First-tier tax tribunal decision issued on 29 november 2013

I have nearly completed my review of the very recent Tax Tribunal decision and will be discussing the full implications with HMRC Specialist Investigations Office in due course.

It is my intention to hold another seminar in London (following the one in April this year attended by 80 contractors) and is there a volunteer who would take on the task of arranging this with my services provided free of charge?

HMRC have expressed an interest in attending such a seminar to put across their point of view.

Due to the costs of room hire in Central London, we will need at least 80 attendees again.

The meeting would likely be held in the New Year by which time we might see some further developments.

Anyone who is interested to receive a copy of the decision in favour of HMRC is welcome to PM me.