HMRC enquiries for EBT schemes through SANZAR

[forescore2004]

Loan Scheme

Hi Oldkent ,
can you please send me the PM right , i am also in the same boat with IQ contract

[MrO666]

Hi Oldkent ,
can you please send me the PM right , i am also in the same boat with IQ contract

To be fair just by reading this thread i'm sure you'll find the answer to most of the questions you can think of.

[mactavish]

PM rights please

Could you give me the PM rights please, I was with Sanzar 08/09, 09/10, 10/11

[funkymonkey]

IQ Contracts / Darwin Pay HMRC Enquiry

Hi,

I was with IQ Contracts / Darwin pay and have now received the section 9a letter requesting all sorts of information for the 12/13 return. I spoke to IQ and they said the directors closed down the company and have created a new one called IQ Consulting (UK) Limited (with the same IQ contracts branding). CHS are "looking after" the contractors but they basically said as it currently stands they won't be defending the scheme that was in place back then but they are "monitoring the situation".

To me it looks like the directors of IQ have taken a lot of money, closed the company and moved on leaving contractors in the lurch with minimal support. How they can expect people to stay with them (which I'm not) is beyond me. I expect they'll do the same with their new schemes leaving the suckers to pick up the pieces.

Please could someone give me PM rights so I can join the other forum?

Thanks

Dan

[MrO666]

Does anybody know (for sure) whether APN's have been issued to any 'everyday' scheme users yet, such as Sanzar etc ?

I know some of the headline schemes have been hit, but they're primarily targeting members who "potentially" owe absolute fortunes.

I'm talking more about the schemes that we're discussing on these forums.

[EBTContractor]

Does anybody know (for sure) whether APN's have been issued to any 'everyday' scheme users yet, such as Sanzar etc ?

I know some of the headline schemes have been hit, but they're primarily targeting members who "potentially" owe absolute fortunes.

I'm talking more about the schemes that we're discussing on these forums.

Not that I am aware of.

APNs I believe have just been issued to celebrities and anyone else who don't want to be named and shamed.

The aggressive and contrived products like film schemes, loss making partnerships etc have been the first to be served.

And it is quite easy, it's all served up on a plate: Home – Icebreaker opportunity to make money

If that isn't mass-marketed tax avoidance on an industrial scale that fall under GAAR I don't know is.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Does anybody know (for sure) whether APN's have been issued to any 'everyday' scheme users yet, such as Sanzar etc ?

This month Contractors who used the BN66 scheme, promoted by Montpelier, deGraaf etc, started receiving pre-APN letters from HMRC saying that APNs will be issued in the next few weeks.

There were around 2000 users in the scheme.

[EBTContractor]

This month Contractors who used the BN66 scheme, promoted by Montpelier, deGraaf etc, started receiving pre-APN letters from HMRC saying that APNs will be issued in the next few weeks.

There were around 2000 users in the scheme.

I'd dispute the APN.

What would HMRC do then?

They just push people who have nothing to lose into an all or nothing position.

If say 25-40% of people dispute the APNs the HMRC beast would just grind to a halt.

Their aggressive strategy will backfire on HMRC.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Don't worry, we'll be disputing APNs alright.

You can't appeal them. All you can do is make representations to HMRC, which is a farce because they are judge and jury.

We will go though the motions of making representations, and then Montpelier have said they will apply for a judicial review.

[webberg]

Not that I am aware of.

APNs I believe have just been issued to celebrities and anyone else who don't want to be named and shamed.

The aggressive and contrived products like film schemes, loss making partnerships etc have been the first to be served.

And it is quite easy, it's all served up on a plate: Home – Icebreaker opportunity to make money

If that isn't mass-marketed tax avoidance on an industrial scale that fall under GAAR I don't know is.

That's incorrect.

I wish that there was a pattern or a plan within HMRC for issue, but there isn't. It appears to be random and based on who can grab the work teams.

I know of APN's on some Ingenious Media partnerships (sub judice at the moment); some other film schemes; some EZ/BPRA schemes. Icebreaker get no APN's because the case is sub judice and not disclosed.

Incidentally, "aggressive and contrived" is how I've heard HMRC describe most contractor schemes.