Sunday Solutions Anyone Else Having A Problem

[swilmot]

Missing money

Hi all
Well I'm in the same position as everyone here. Is there anyone who might offer me some advice on getting to know where my cash has gone....


Regs
hutchy

Hutchy,

Basically, in theory, the money should be sitting in your partnership bank account as Sunday/Bradbury didn't pay it to HMRC as per contracts. In reality it is probably the case that the thieving b*****ds have stripped the bank accounts clean and made a tidy profit of a few million pounds.
What you need to do ...
Contact the SFO (they will say it is nothing to do with them, but the more of us that contact them ...)
Contact the HMRC fraud department.
Depending on what you are doing with your tax liability, you may need to speak to the HMRC on payment terms etc.
Contact ConsumerDirect - see earlier post with a reference number
Contact your MP, mention that other people have already done so.
Contact the action group, this is the same as the solicitors mentioned in a recent post.

I hope this helps, and welcome aboard,

Simon

[Microtots'r'us]

Go figure Fraud Act 2006

It's nice to see swift action is being taken. Some of those partneship names are so fu*king stupid. Sunday solutions must have been giving us cryptic clues to future events with partnership names like Shaftoe Lunsford!

A thought for everyone
1 Fraud

(1) A person is guilty of fraud if he is in breach of any of the sections listed in subsection (2) (which provide for different ways of committing the offence).

(2) The sections are—

(a) section 2 (fraud by false representation),

(b) section 3 (fraud by failing to disclose information), and

(c) section 4 (fraud by abuse of position).

(3) A person who is guilty of fraud is liable—

(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);

(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine (or to both).

(4) Subsection (3)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12 months were a reference to 6 months.
2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).
3 Fraud by failing to disclose information

A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly fails to disclose to another person information which he is under a legal duty to disclose, and

(b) intends, by failing to disclose the information—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
4 Fraud by abuse of position

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) occupies a position in which he is expected to safeguard, or not to act against, the financial interests of another person,

(b) dishonestly abuses that position, and

(c) intends, by means of the abuse of that position—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A person may be regarded as having abused his position even though his conduct consisted of an omission rather than an act.
5 “Gain” and “loss”

(1) The references to gain and loss in sections 2 to 4 are to be read in accordance with this section.

(2) “Gain” and “loss”—

(a) extend only to gain or loss in money or other property;

(b) include any such gain or loss whether temporary or permanent;

and “property” means any property whether real or personal (including things in action and other intangible property).

(3) “Gain” includes a gain by keeping what one has, as well as a gain by getting what one does not have.

(4) “Loss” includes a loss by not getting what one might get, as well as a loss by parting with what one has.
6 Possession etc. of articles for use in frauds

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he has in his possession or under his control any article for use in the course of or in connection with any fraud.

(2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—

(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);

(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine (or to both).

(3) Subsection (2)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12 months were a reference to 6 months.
7 Making or supplying articles for use in frauds

(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he makes, adapts, supplies or offers to supply any article—

(a) knowing that it is designed or adapted for use in the course of or in connection with fraud, or

(b) intending it to be used to commit, or assist in the commission of, fraud.

(2) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable—

(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);

(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine (or to both).

(3) Subsection (2)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12 months were a reference to 6 months.

[mikemloy]

Willowmeade Admistrators

Hi all
I followed a link in an earlier thread and found this.

" Willow Meade Ltd - Appointment of Administrator

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
My principal and the Insolvency Partner here at Monahans, Paul Michael McConnell, was appointed Administrator of Willow Meade Ltd on 23rd February 2010.

The appointment was made by the director of the company and filed in Swindon County Court under reference 158 of 2010. Notice has also been sent to the Registrar of Companies and that should show online shortly.

Monahans has had no previous professional relationship with Willow Meade Ltd or its officers prior to taking the administration appointment. Our primary concern in the first instance is therefore to find out who may have been affected by the company's demise and piece together a picture of the various organisations involved, in light of the long thread on this forum and other similar sites such as MSE.

If you are a creditor of Willow Meade Ltd or have information that you consider would be of use to the Administrator, then please e-mail me using [email protected]

Steve Elliott
Director of Insolvency
Monahans Chartered Accountants
www.monahans.co.uk

This is the first time I have seen any info on the administrator,
I have emailed him as per the above statement and asked him to post a generic statement on this thread. At least we will get some information....hopefully.

Mikey

[Microtots'r'us]

Willowmeade

Monahans are only acting for Willowmeade Limited

[Tez2381]

Has anyone else received a fine from HMRC for a late partnership tax return??

Hi all,
I'm also affected by this Sunday/Bradbury business, but have never posted on here before, although Ive read all the previous posts.
One question I would like to ask is if anyone else has received a £100 fine for the partnership tax return form not being submitted?
I saw Feed the kids asked this, and only one person has replied to say they had a fine.
I'm surprised that not more people have received them. When I called HMRC, they told me the partnership form still hasn't been submitted. I have paid the fine so I dont incure more interest charges, and have sent off the appeal form plus a letter with the whole story, in the hopes that HMRC will investigate. (This apparently is the process to follow).The HMRC Helpdesk aren't interested though as the appeal will be handled by my local tax office who conveniently can't be contacted by phone!
Please let me know if anyone else has recieved a fine.
I saw someone had said that their partnership form had been submitted previously, you're the lucky one!
Also, I know I was part of a partnership, but don't know who else was in it. People on the forum keep saying these strange pertnership names. How do I find out what my partnership was called? Any ideas? Thanks a lot.

[swilmot]

Partnership Name / tax return

Hi all,
I'm also affected by this Sunday/Bradbury business, but have never posted on here before, although Ive read all the previous posts.
One question I would like to ask is if anyone else has received a £100 fine for the partnership tax return form not being submitted?
I saw Feed the kids asked this, and only one person has replied to say they had a fine.
I'm surprised that not more people have received them. When I called HMRC, they told me the partnership form still hasn't been submitted. I have paid the fine so I dont incure more interest charges, and have sent off the appeal form plus a letter with the whole story, in the hopes that HMRC will investigate. (This apparently is the process to follow).The HMRC Helpdesk aren't interested though as the appeal will be handled by my local tax office who conveniently can't be contacted by phone!
Please let me know if anyone else has recieved a fine.
I saw someone had said that their partnership form had been submitted previously, you're the lucky one!
Also, I know I was part of a partnership, but don't know who else was in it. People on the forum keep saying these strange pertnership names. How do I find out what my partnership was called? Any ideas? Thanks a lot.

Hi Tez,

The partnership name should be on your contract, and loads of other documentation between you and Sunday/Bradbury.
As for the partnership tax returns, the HMRC told me that my partnerships had been submitted in late January, although I took that with a pinch of salt as I think it was on the same day that I submitted my own. I haven't received any notification of a fine of any sort.

Cheers,

Simon

[Bassett_1980]

I have not received a fine for the partnership return not (although I don't know if it has or has not) being submitted. Although I am unsure if we as partners would be responsible/accountable for the submission of the partnership return (I did not even think about this a few weeks back). Surely it would have been in Sunday Solutions name that set it up, or in the name of the 1st partner on the list? I was the 14th or so partner to join the partnership I am in.

As most of the partnerships have 20 people in them then would a fine for a late partnership submission be £2000 in total (the penalty being £100)?

Can anyone else shed anylight on this? I have not seen this as a subject of discussion within the SundayBradbury legal group or questions to the solicitor.

[Tez2381]

Hi Tez,

The partnership name should be on your contract, and loads of other documentation between you and Sunday/Bradbury.
As for the partnership tax returns, the HMRC told me that my partnerships had been submitted in late January, although I took that with a pinch of salt as I think it was on the same day that I submitted my own. I haven't received any notification of a fine of any sort.

Cheers,

Simon

Thanks Simon, I'll have a look through the paperwork.

[Tez2381]

I have not received a fine for the partnership return not (although I don't know if it has or has not) being submitted. Although I am unsure if we as partners would be responsible/accountable for the submission of the partnership return (I did not even think about this a few weeks back). Surely it would have been in Sunday Solutions name that set it up, or in the name of the 1st partner on the list? I was the 14th or so partner to join the partnership I am in.

As most of the partnerships have 20 people in them then would a fine for a late partnership submission be £2000 in total (the penalty being £100)?

Can anyone else shed anylight on this? I have not seen this as a subject of discussion within the SundayBradbury legal group or questions to the solicitor.

Hi Bassett_1980

Yes, every partner in the partnership will receive a £100 fine if the partnership form is submitted late. What made me smile was on the appeal form, it says you can only appeal if you are the person responsibile for submitting the form which would be Bradbury! So, even though I have no control over Bradbury not submitting the partnership form in time, I still get fined for it. I just have to hope that they are in the process of submitting them if they have done some of them already, otherwise I will get fined again in July, plus interest charges. I did write a very long appeal letter and Im just hoping that HMRC will investigate and give me my money back, but that might just be wishful thinking!

[Bassett_1980]

I am doing the same - I don't want to draw any more attention to myself from the HMRC...

Perhaps this means all our partnership returns have been submitted as per Bradbury & Co's email. The HMRC are pretty hot on letting you know how much money you owe then & fines incurred etc so we would have received reminders a while back if any fines had been incurred.