UKIP!

[sasguru]

They do, he told the truth.

it was a fact.

You're clearly of the UKIP demographic.
Good luck.
You should ask what their policy is for dealing with the 50% of people (of which you are one) who are unable/will be unable to thrive in an increasingly complicated knowledge economy.
It's no laughing matter.

[vetran]

So why don't we pick the ones we need and refuse entry to the rest?

I quite like the idea of every country jettisoning the Euro, reducing the influence of the state, opening up competition and negotiating free trade deals across the EU and THEN allowing managed movement of labour.

With you on all but one point. I want to be able to refuse criminals, low value and negative value migrants.

[sasguru]

low value migrants.

Like fruit pickers? Most farmers will tell you that if they didn't have these particular low-level migrants the fruit and veg would rot in the fields.

[vetran]

You're clearly of the UKIP demographic.
Good luck.
You should ask what their policy is for dealing with the 50% of people (of which you are one) who are unable/will be unable to thrive in an increasingly complicated knowledge economy.
It's no laughing matter.

Oh dear the CretinFinder General is obviously a sore loser.

[DodgyAgent]

With you on all but one point. I want to be able to refuse criminals, low value and negative value migrants.

So how are we going to get decent recruitment agents then?

[sasguru]

Oh dear the CretinFinder General is obviously a sore loser.

Not really. Your logical and mathematical skills are abominable as has been pointed out on more than one occasion.
Its lucky for you you're of retirement age and were able to BS through most of your career, but those "jobs" are disappearing.

[DodgyAgent]

You're clearly of the UKIP demographic.
Good luck.
You should ask what their policy is for dealing with the 50% of people (of which you are one) who are unable/will be unable to thrive in an increasingly complicated knowledge economy.
It's no laughing matter.

Is that a knowledge economy that remembers the lessons of history? The lesson most important of all of how our democracy was developed and defended? Or is that the knowledge economy that teaches us to surrender and dilute democratic accountabilty to a far away bunch of lawyer trained bureaucrats with an obsession for rules and control?

[vetran]

Like fruit pickers? Most farmers will tell you that if they didn't have these particular low-level migrants the fruit and veg would rot in the fields.

Maybe we should get our benefit claimants to pick fruit? Oh we can't because they changed the benefit system so that those that take seasonal jobs end up worse off. Or introduced work / attend for benefits so its easier to work than lounge on benefits.

Us knowledge workers know there is more than one cause of any problem. The easy solution is not always the right solution.

[vetran]

Not really. Your logical and mathematical skills are abominable as has been pointed out on more than one occasion.
Its lucky for you you're of retirement age and were able to BS through most of your career, but those "jobs" are disappearing.

I can tell the difference between gross & net, you obviously can't.

[doodab]

They do, he told the truth. It may not be what you perceive as the reality but the statement was true. If you can show the majority were returning brits then you might have some sort of point, but they weren't.

No he didn't. He said half a million people settled here and that is simply not true.