Should she stay, or should she go now?

[xoggoth]

We should not, in principle, be granting asylum to people threatened by individuals or who have come via other safe countries. That is not what the Geneva convention says.

That said, I do wish, since they never seem to be able to deport them all, that they would concentrate on the criminals and welfare users, rather than somebody like this who is not a threat and appears a useful sort.

All these processes cost money and if you spend it on getting rid of her and others that are not a major problem, that is less to spend on finding and removing the other sort. Surely they should examine the merits of individuals and prioritise who they get rid of first.

They obviously first need to ditch this idiot idea that one person's rights can override everyone else's and restore the proper bond between citizen and state by prioritising the interests of British citizens.

[northernladuk]

We should not, in principle, be granting asylum to people threatened by individuals or who have come via other safe countries. That is not what the Geneva convention says.

That said, I do wish, since they never seem to be able to deport them all, that they would concentrate on the criminals and welfare users, rather than somebody like this who is not a threat and appears a useful sort.

All these processes cost money and if you spend it on getting rid of her and others that are not a major problem, that is less to spend on finding and removing the other sort. Surely they should examine the merits of individuals and prioritise who they get rid of first.

They obviously first need to ditch this idiot idea that one person's rights can override everyone else's and restore the proper bond between citizen and state by prioritising the interests of British citizens.

How do you know they aren't? Just because this one has gone public it doesn't mean anything has been done differently or taken longer or shorter than normal. Her name came up, her application failed, she goes home.

[DodgyAgent]

Why don't we send SASguru to Mauritius as a swap?

[vetran]

Why don't we send SASguru to Mauritius as a swap?

poor Mauritius, then they would have a reason to claim asylum.

[xoggoth]

How do you know they aren't?

According to Migration Watch, only about 1 in 4 of those whose asylum claims are rejected are removed from the UK. No info on their qualities of course but I find it hard to believe that this woman is really among the worst problems.

MigrationWatchUK | An independent, voluntary, non-political body concerned about the scale of immigration into the UK.

[northernladuk]

According to Migration Watch, only about 1 in 4 of those whose asylum claims are rejected are removed from the UK. No info on their qualities of course but I find it hard to believe that this woman is really among the worst problems.

MigrationWatchUK | An independent, voluntary, non-political body concerned about the scale of immigration into the UK.

But if she doesn't go that figure just get's worse. Apart from maybe the timings with the family I don't see why she should be treated any differently.

I would be interested to know why BA wouldn't take her.

[oscarose]

show compassion and let her stay

it's always the right time to do the right thing

[northernladuk]

show compassion and let her stay

it's always the right time to do the right thing

Why? Put the message out that anyone can come over here with next to no reason to claim asylum, get in to a school and then stay? That's not going to help anyone.

[oscarose]

Why? Put the message out that anyone can come over here with next to no reason to claim asylum, get in to a school and then stay? That's not going to help anyone.

The correct thing to do is let her finish A level exams. As an open society we should embrace her positive intentions.

"She was really upset last week and frightened" - have some compassion for the girl.

[northernladuk]

The correct thing to do is let her finish A level exams. As an open society we should embrace her positive intentions.

"She was really upset last week and frightened" - have some compassion for the girl.

Technically she shouldn't be here doing A levels. Do we make that an example and let every man and his dog come and do their A levels before we send them home? There is an argument here for take action quickly and decisively to deter anyone else that fancies a free education as well. If this had been dealt with quickly at the time the family wouldn't be in this situation.

I am sure every one that gets sent back will be upset and frightened as well, it must be a very harrowing process... but you want to come to the UK for a free life on a whim it's gonna come back and bite you I am afraid.

You have to take the compassion out of a process like this when it's so clear cut. Get's in the way of doing what has to be done I am afraid.